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Title: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 08:26:53 PM
Neverovatno! Ja znam da je manual labor skup u Kaliforniji, ali $578 miliona za zgradu u LA Unified School district? Od cega su je pravili - zlatne kvake, cesme? Smart board po glavi ucenika? $578M? Wow.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100822/ap_on_re_us/us_taj_mahal_schools (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100822/ap_on_re_us/us_taj_mahal_schools)

Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Che2 on August 23, 2010, 09:15:11 PM
ne mozes da poredis cijene nekretnina u kaliforniji sa nedodjijom kod tebe tamo...
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 09:20:43 PM
Zunzaro, tebe niko nije nista pitao.
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Pijanista on August 23, 2010, 09:25:50 PM
Evo u Vankuveru na prime-location, waterfront, grad uspeo da zasere za olimpijadu i napravi gomilu stanova za ogromne pare, koje sad niko nece da kupi po sumanuto visokoj ceni neophodnoj da bi se to isplatilo. A radi se prakticno o poslednjem parcetu zemlje u centru na obali.
Samo 100m levo i desno privatni investitori prave i prodaju solitere i drmaju profit.  \
Vratite nam Fridmana!
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Pijanista on August 23, 2010, 09:30:32 PM
Eve gi primer:

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=9743934&PidKey=-296689834 (http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=9743934&PidKey=-296689834)
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 09:33:31 PM
'oce to kad se vlas' igra biznisa (btw, imamo nacionalnu predstavu, prenos uzivo).

Ali ovo sa skolom nije stvar nekretnina. Ko je imao volje da procita clanak na Yahoo news do kraja, video bi da u cenu od $578 ulazi cena ahritektonskog resenja, zatim sudjenje sa prezervacijskom grupom i Donalndom Trumpom ($9M), studiju o Metanu ($33M), $15M za prezervaciju istorijiskih "features" - to verovatno betona na kojem je RFK iskrvario, itd. ....

I dalje, besmisleno je platiti pola milijarde dolara za izgradnju skole za 1,700 ucenika ....  posle ce cela federacija da vadi CA iz govana... wtf?
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 09:37:07 PM
Mada... ovo me je podsetilo na poredjenje koje sam pre mesec-dva procitao.

Difference between California and Arizona


California:

The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out, bites the Governor and attacks his dog.

1. The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi" and then realizes he should stop; the coyote is only doing what
is natural.
2. He calls animal control. Animal Control captures coyote and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.
3. He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.
4. The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.
5. The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is free of
dangerous animals.
6. The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote awareness" program for residents of the area.
7. The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout
the world.
8. The Governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the attack somehow and for letting the Governor attempt to intervene.
9. Additional cost to State of California: $75,000 to hire and train a new security agent with additional special training re: the nature of coyotes.
10. PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files suit against the State, causing a large expenditure in defense... that is ongoing.


Arizona:

The Governor of Arizona is jogging with her dog along a nature trail. A Coyote jumps out and attacks her dog.

1. The Governor shoots the coyote with her State-issued pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point
cartridge.
2. The Buzzards eat the dead coyote.
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Pijanista on August 23, 2010, 09:38:03 PM
Znam, samo sam morao ovo da postavim kao ilustrativno.
Ne znam gde bese jedan slucaj, dali Kanada ili SAD, gde su nekakvi zeleni-ljuitelji mrmota-beloglavih supova stajaznam hteli da stopiraju gradnju ne znac cega dok se ne uvidi uticaj na prirodu i jeli to OK. Sad, developer sa svim dozvolama kaze da ce da propadne ako dodje do zakasnjenja itd. Sudija odobri nekoliko meseci za izradu studije o prirodi pod uslovom da envajronmentalisti poloze kauciju u visini eventualnog gubitka koji ce developer da dobije ako se ispostavi da je sve u redu i da moze napred sa projektom. A ako se projekat stopira, kaucija se vraca prirodnjacima. I naravno, prirodnjaci odustali...
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Pijanista on August 23, 2010, 09:39:24 PM
Malo shale:   :mrgreen:

QuoteDifference between California and Arizona


California:

The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A Mexican jumps out.....,
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 09:39:36 PM
Nema smisla da milion anchor babies ide u neke rusevne skole...
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Che2 on August 23, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
ulaganje u skolu je dobra investicija za svaku zemlju. ako mene pitas mogli bi da smanje troskove agresivnih ratova...
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Pijanista on August 23, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Che on August 23, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
ulaganje u skolu je dobra investicija za svaku zemlju. ako mene pitas mogli bi da smanje troskove agresivnih ratova...

Postoji suptilna razlika izmedju skole (zgrade; dziprok, cigla, staklo i iverica) i skolovanja (obrazovanja; proces)
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Che on August 23, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
ulaganje u skolu je dobra investicija za svaku zemlju. ako mene pitas mogli bi da smanje troskove agresivnih ratova...

Pokvaren (zaglavljen) casovnik 2 (dva) puta u roku od 24 casa pokaze tacno vreme. Tako i ti. Klepeces po ceo dan, lomoces budibogsnama sta ("K'o baba o bolesti") i da vidis tragedije, ubodes da izustis i nesto sto nije s' onu stranu razuma. Tragedija ove zemlje je sto ovo pocinje da biva sve ucestalije, ne samo glede tvojih toripanja nego i shire.
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Che2 on August 23, 2010, 09:52:42 PM
Quote from: Pijanista on August 23, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Che on August 23, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
ulaganje u skolu je dobra investicija za svaku zemlju. ako mene pitas mogli bi da smanje troskove agresivnih ratova...

Postoji suptilna razlika izmedju skole (zgrade; dziprok, cigla, staklo i iverica) i skolovanja (obrazovanja; proces)


ovaj put je rijec bila o skoli kao objektu. ali slazem se da isto vrijedi i sa skolstvom ili ti obrazovnim sistemom.    xjap
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Che2 on August 23, 2010, 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Che on August 23, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
ulaganje u skolu je dobra investicija za svaku zemlju. ako mene pitas mogli bi da smanje troskove agresivnih ratova...

Pokvaren (zaglavljen) casovnik 2 (dva) puta u roku od 24 casa pokaze tacno vreme. Tako i ti. Klepeces po ceo dan, lomoces budibogsnama sta ("K'o baba o bolesti") i da vidis tragedije, ubodes da izustis i nesto sto nije s' onu stranu razuma. Tragedija ove zemlje je sto ovo pocinje da biva sve ucestalije, ne samo glede tvojih toripanja nego i shire.


dobar hatemi, dobar....    xrofl
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Che on August 23, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
ulaganje u skolu je dobra investicija za svaku zemlju. ako mene pitas mogli bi da smanje troskove agresivnih ratova...

Pokvaren (zaglavljen) casovnik 2 (dva) puta u roku od 24 casa pokaze tacno vreme. Tako i ti. Klepeces po ceo dan, lomoces budibogsnama sta ("K'o baba o bolesti") i da vidis tragedije, ubodes da izustis i nesto sto nije s' onu stranu razuma. Tragedija ove zemlje je sto ovo pocinje da biva sve ucestalije, ne samo glede tvojih toripanja nego i shire.

(http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dem-deficit.gif)
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 09:57:02 PM
There are currently 2 (two) wars being waged.
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 10:04:22 PM
Quote from: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 09:57:02 PM
There are currently 2 (two) wars being waged.

(http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/obama-deficit-bush2-e1273698959571.jpg)
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Che2 on August 23, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
ovaj vrtoglavi porast deficita u 2009 & 2010 nema toliko veze sa ratovima... pare su otisle uglavnom na tzv. stimuluse o kojima se vrlo malo zna: gdje? ko? sta? koliko? etc.
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 10:05:36 PM
But, "deficits don't matter"???
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 10:07:39 PM
Well, if they trully mattered to you, you'd be alarmed [in 2010].
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Che2 on August 23, 2010, 10:08:13 PM
to da hatemi... imaju i oni svoj topcider.    :)
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 10:17:49 PM
But, does that mean they do matter now??
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 10:25:30 PM
You tell me - ti o njima pricas vec 10 godina. Ova ekipa (vecina u kongresu od 2006) ima bolji kredibilitet?
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Hate mail on August 23, 2010, 10:29:38 PM
Ko, ja? Ja se ne lozim na te price koje se rotiraju iz usta jednih do usta drugih, vec po potrebi i vec kako se ko nadje u "vlasti" ili u "opoziciji".
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 23, 2010, 10:43:30 PM
Back to the $578M topic:

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/public-school-los-angeles-named-robert-kennedy-expensive/story?id=11462095 (http://abcnews.go.com/WN/public-school-los-angeles-named-robert-kennedy-expensive/story?id=11462095)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/the-most-expensive-public-scho.html (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/the-most-expensive-public-scho.html)

5 most expensive K-12 public schools:
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/the-most-expensive-public-high-schools-in-america/19604820 (http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/the-most-expensive-public-high-schools-in-america/19604820)
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Tromotorac on August 24, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/No-more-federal-bailouts-for-profligate-states-543744-101387414.html (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/No-more-federal-bailouts-for-profligate-states-543744-101387414.html)

Talking chairs!
Title: Re: $578M school in LA!
Post by: Pijanista on August 24, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
Jebale is govorece klupe, njima trebaju one kienske sa ekserima.

Hm, sad ce gvmt da nadje resenje. Vise para....