Dugacko, ali ko ima vremena, zanimljivo. Depresivan tip sa manijom gonjenja vs the rest of the world. Nece se ovaj glave nanositi.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_khatchadourian (http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/06/07/100607fa_fact_khatchadourian)
bilo bi zanimljivo videti sta ima na temu banaka da objavi.
navodno mu je to sledece na redu ali ko zna da li ce taj doziveti kraj godine.
Cyber Laden
Ako ga dozivi, cenim da mu ne gine supermax u CO.
Singularity closing in. Gotta defend the paradigm.
Too much knowledge is bad for you.
Haha, meni je najdrazi leak da se suni muslimani vise plase atomskog Irana nego Izrael. Sve ostalo je old news.
Zamislite da je Milosevic danas i dalje na vlasti, i da jebe svuda unaokolo pa rastura. Otpor, DEPOS, itd ko god da je u opoziciji protiv Miloseviceve diktature, pre ili posle nadje svoje ime na wikileakerovom web sajtu... par meseca kasnije zavrse kao Curuvija.
To ceka sve opozicionare diktatorskih rezima iz Iraka i Afganistana. Zasto? Zato sto jedan anarho-metrosexual resio da bude "hrabar" pa da ratuje na "free speech" polju protiv USA. Naravno rezimi kao sto su Rusija, Severna Koreja, Pakistan, Sirija, Iran, su OK pa nema potrebe da se objavljuje njihova dokumentacija.
Assanage treba da popije metak ili neki radioaktivni caj, da dozivi istu sudbinu koja ceka opozicionare cija je imena objavio.
Da, ovog majmuna uopste ne zanima sudbina onih ciji ce komentari biti prepoznati u tajnim sluzbama zemalja u kojima ti prvo iscupaju nokte, pa onda postave pitanje kad te nabiju u neku mracnu memljivu celiju.
Samo, prica se da je resio da obelodani korespodenciju iz Kremlja. Bolje mu je da se sam ubije, ako je to tacno. Ili da lepo odrobija koju deceniju u Americi.
Da, ako USA nema petlju da ga eliminise, nastradace on od sopstvenog hubrisa. Anglo version of Chegevara ...
Pola sveta ga slave kao heroja, a da je objavljivao privatne poruke sa fejsbuka svi bi mu jebali kevu. Luda kuca. A da je kreten i kriminalac, jeste.
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 07:37:47 PM
Da, ako USA nema petlju da ga eliminise, nastradace on od sopstvenog hubrisa. Anglo version of Chegevara ...
Hm, one dve ribe sto ga tuze za silovanje u Svedskoj..u don't think they work foir a certain agency of a certain country? ;)
Moguce. Ali ja razmisljam profil osobe koja je u stanju da se triput uzastopno popisava po svetskoj sili, je u stanju i da siluje (klasicno, date rape, svejedno). Misli da je faca, pa misli da mu je sve dozvoljeno.
za male pare ste se prodali drugovi... a za vise i niste. xjap
Moguce, ali procitaj ovaj tekst, odlican je. (New Yorker je i dalje odlican magazin, citam ga godinama, svaka cast na tekstovima) Mislim da ovaj voli da siluje samo hard discove. Paranoid dude on the run..nesto ne verujem da bi dosao i situaciju da stavlja sebe u jos veci chabar, osobito imajuci u vidu da je ovakvim moroniima uvek spremno da se dobrovoljno pripali hiljade anti globalization omladinki sa chegechvarkom na grudima.
Onaj nas nesretnik Che bi mu dao bulje cim bi ovaj zaiskao, to sam ubedjen. Pa ako treba i tastatura da stane u rektum, sve moze, za dobrobit radnicke klase.
xrofl
drugovi, pederastija je vas demokraCki lifestyle... elem, vecina tzv. ljudi su sitne sicardzije kao i vi i zato ste samo puki prosjek ili sto bi batica hatemi rekao tzv. duplo golo. xjap
Ijao kako je glup... kad bi ovaj nas sirotan nesto wikileak-ovao, ni jedna sluzba ne bi mrdnula. Znaju mu kevu...
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
xrofl
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html)
Pazi samo na koliko nacina na engleskom moze da se kaze "mudroser".
A normalno, Chegecvarak mu je jedan od idola. (mozda i ovaj ne voli da se kupa, ko zna...)
Ovaj nas sirotan crta krug lenjirom, on ne ume da hakuje bravu na rodjenim vratima sa sve kljucem u ruci.
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:34:12 PM
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
xrofl
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html)
Pazi samo na koliko nacina na engleskom moze da se kaze "mudroser".
A normalno, Chegecvarak mu je jedan od idola. (mozda i ovaj ne voli da se kupa, ko zna...)
Joj ovi citati me podsetili na classmates sa Nonfiction Writing predmeta na UIC. Bila dva fag-a, jedan od njih sa sve vunenom kapicom na glavi, koji su tako postmodernisticki kritikovali pozivajuci se na sve i svakoga. Bila jos trojica lib-in-training copycata, malo manje vesta stihoklepca.
Da je ovaj Pissanage nasao devojku (ili decka) na vreme, bio bi solidan profesor u nekom Humanties/English dept.
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
Ovaj nas sirotan crta krug lenjirom, on ne ume da hakuje bravu na rodjenim vratima sa sve kljucem u ruci.
xrofl xrofl xrofl
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:34:12 PM
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
xrofl
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html)
Pazi samo na koliko nacina na engleskom moze da se kaze "mudroser".
A normalno, Chegecvarak mu je jedan od idola. (mozda i ovaj ne voli da se kupa, ko zna...)
Joj ovi citati me podsetili na classmates sa Nonfiction Writing predmeta na UIC. Bila dva fag-a, jedan od njih sa sve vunenom kapicom na glavi, koji su tako postmodernisticki kritikovali pozivajuci se na sve i svakoga. Bila jos trojica lib-in-training copycata, malo manje vesta stihoklepca.
Da je ovaj Pissanage nasao devojku (ili decka) na vreme, bio bi solidan profesor u nekom Humanties/English dept.
Ah, nasao je neku jadnicu, sa njom je imao dete, pa su je onda tuzili on
I NJEGOVA MAMA jer je sud dao dete na staranje majci, a ne njemu. I wonder why...A keva mu je piece of work, selili su se recimo 40 puta dok je on bio teenager. Homeschooled weirdo, australian vintage ;)
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
Ovaj nas sirotan crta krug lenjirom, on ne ume da hakuje bravu na rodjenim vratima sa sve kljucem u ruci.
xrofl xrofl xrofl
Pardon, ne na rodjenim vratima, na roditeljskoj garazi... :mrgreen:
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:48:40 PM
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:44:45 PM
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:34:12 PM
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:14:51 PM
xrofl
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-unger/julian-assange-blog_b_791173.html)
Pazi samo na koliko nacina na engleskom moze da se kaze "mudroser".
A normalno, Chegecvarak mu je jedan od idola. (mozda i ovaj ne voli da se kupa, ko zna...)
Joj ovi citati me podsetili na classmates sa Nonfiction Writing predmeta na UIC. Bila dva fag-a, jedan od njih sa sve vunenom kapicom na glavi, koji su tako postmodernisticki kritikovali pozivajuci se na sve i svakoga. Bila jos trojica lib-in-training copycata, malo manje vesta stihoklepca.
Da je ovaj Pissanage nasao devojku (ili decka) na vreme, bio bi solidan profesor u nekom Humanties/English dept.
Ah, nasao je neku jadnicu, sa njom je imao dete, pa su je onda tuzili on I NJEGOVA MAMA jer je sud dao dete na staranje majci, a ne njemu. I wonder why...A keva mu je piece of work, selili su se recimo 40 puta dok je on bio teenager. Homeschooled weirdo, australian vintage ;)
Wow, tuzili majku novorodjenog deteta, how brave is that.
A ovo drugo je najinteresantniji detalj cele farse - kazu to seljakanje ga je napravilo anarhistom koji ne postuje pravila ili zakone koje je stvorio "the Man". A ovamo kritikuje USA za
ne postovanje pravila UN. How retarded...
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 02, 2010, 08:35:20 PM
Ovaj nas sirotan crta krug lenjirom, on ne ume da hakuje bravu na rodjenim vratima sa sve kljucem u ruci.
xrofl xrofl xrofl
Pardon, ne na rodjenim vratima, na roditeljskoj garazi... :mrgreen:
Ne ume da pronadje dugme na daljinskom. Mora da je jedan od onih koje su roditelji setali na kaisu, dok je bio pre-teen.
Pre ce biti da je govanChetovo kretanje bilo ograniceno elektricnim pastirom. Napredna porodica, early adopters, so to speak ;)
Ima rodjake u Taser Intl. koji su im obezbedili employee product discount. Field testing, ocigledno neuspeo.
"sta bi dao da si na mom mjestu, da te mrze a da ti se dive, sta bi daoooo...." 8-)
Che ga gurao u pogresno kuciste, pa sad varnichi na bulju
:)
Sva sreca da su u Floridi gde je svega 110v. Da je kod Putina, voltaza bi mogla da bude fatalna.
Quote from: Tromotorac on December 02, 2010, 09:21:21 PM
Sva sreca da su u Floridi gde je svega 110v. Da je kod Putina, voltaza bi mogla da bude fatalna.
:P
:D
Jbte, kakvi ste shizofrenici ?!
Da je ovaj objavio nesto iz i oko Srbije...radovali biste se kao
deca i vodili ga po U92 da daje intervjue.
Posto je objavio vasu bruku...onda je moron, dileja i velikosrpski
slobokoljac ??!
Pola mozga vam radi na jednu foru a ona druga polovina na
180 stepeni drugaciju.
Shizofrenija dobrovoljnog tipa.
Ne znam joj drugacije ime.
Koga bi bilo i briga da je objavio nesto iz i oko Srbije? To bi bila vest? Sta Tadic misli o Hilari ili o Izraelu i sa kim se domundjavao?
OK miskop, a sad nazad pod sahtu.
Quote from: Mirabella on December 03, 2010, 01:45:17 PM
Koga bi bilo i briga da je objavio nesto iz i oko Srbije? To bi bila vest? Sta Tadic misli o Hilari ili o Izraelu i sa kim se domundjavao?
Danas je tako. Ali samo zamisli da smo 10 godina u nazad, i da je ovaj objavio imena Miloseviceve opozicije. Prica bi bila totalno drugacija.
Briga mene za Hillary i njen state department. Ono sto je za zaljenje jesu ljudi u Iraku/Afranisanu i drugim drzavama obelodanjeni, i cija je buducnost pod velikim znakom pitanja.
Mislis kao Valerie Plame?
Jebo Valerie Plame.
Da, da...
Valerie je bila desk analyst godinama; poslali njenog muza da trazi zute torte, i nakon toga ona bila nekako "outed". I sta, jel' joj falila dlaka s' glave?
- postala DC celebrity, bili na svakom congressional ball svake godine
- njen muz objavio bestseller books, imao uspesnu book tour, tv interview circuits
- dobila spred-out photos u Life Magazine, gde su je slikali kao second Grace Kelly
- zaradili silnu lovu,
- zasluzni za Democrat congressional victory 2006
- snimljen film na temu njene tragicne price, gde je njen lik glumila Scarlett Johanson
To surova i svirepa sudbina mi deluje malo bolje nego sto ceka one Afganistance koji su saradjivali sa NATOm u svrgavanju Talibana.
That's post festum.
In the meantime, an outing is an outing.
A jednog dana, kada Afghancima izgradimo demokratiju, i oni ce moci da u miru svoje kuce na obali napisu besCeler i potpuno bezbedni (zivot & telo) otplove u sunset. That's why our fine men and women in uniform are there for in the first place.
:roll:
Sto vrtis ocima? Kada se to desi, onda ce i opasnosti po nase Slobode takodje nestati jer onda vise nece imati ko da nas mrzi zbog nasih Sloboda. What's also known as "circular reference". Maybe. Here, have some Freedom fries with that.
batice, skoro si pisao da H. Kissinger te tvoje tzv. fine men & woman zove govedinom i topovskim mesom... a i za tebe drzim da nisi toliko glup da vjerujes u to sto pises. dakle provokacija je the name of the game, a paljevine kao ovaj tupavi petobrzinac su vazda tu da kolutaju ocima. :)
Ti si govedo kao likovi koji pitaju devojku dal' smeju da je jebu. Ako moras da pitas onda i neces.
ok mr. casanova. thx for the advice! xrotaeye
Assange je lud jer je imao muda da objavi dokumente i tako sebi nacrta metu na ledjima. Ja nisam cuo, mada deluje logicno, da su kroz wikileaks objavljena razna imena raznih operativaca po svetu.
Medjutim on je samo messenger. Po meni mnogo je zanimljivije ko je sve i kako dolazio do tih dokumenata. Niti ih je Assange narucivao niti kupovao. Za sada se sumnja da je jedan od krivaca klinac inace 'intelligence analyst'. Ja bi se iz ugla Amerike prvo time zabavio, kako je moguce da jedan klinac od 23 godine ima pristup svemu i moze da useta sa CDima i napravi toliko kopija. Drugo neka mu sude za izdaju/veleizdaju neka mu rade sta hoce jer bez njega Assange bi ostao samo paranoik, haker sta vec...
Kao sto rekoh zanima me da vidim sta ce izaci na videlo u vezi banaka.
"Never let a good crisis go to waste". Dosta je bilo slobodnog trtljanja po "the internets". Lepo dozvolu pa se kaci u buduce ako smes. And support our troops.
vrle tzv. demokrate, nikada vam to nece poci za rukom... sluzbe slobodarskog svijeta budno motre situVaciju. xjap
Prevent your own WikiLeaks i zanimljiva diskusija u nastavku:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/preventing-your-own-wikileaks/404 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/preventing-your-own-wikileaks/404)
Mnogo si glup. Zasto malo ne zacutis? ("¿Por qué no te callas?")
Quote from: Mirabella on December 03, 2010, 07:03:50 PM
Prevent your own WikiLeaks i zanimljiva diskusija u nastavku:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/preventing-your-own-wikileaks/404 (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/preventing-your-own-wikileaks/404)
Zanimljivo. Tokom '90tih dok sam radio u Motoroli, bila je slicna zabrana unosenja/iznosenja laptopova, foto-aparata i telefona u zgrade kompanije. Posebno su vodili racuna o telefonima sa kamerom, koji su u to vreme bili najnovija rec tehnike; imali su neko iskustvo sa nekom korejskom delegacijom koja im je fotografisala research labs. Ja sam morao da imam poseban badge, koji mi je dozvoljavao da nosim laptop, ali su i tada trazili da vide Motorolin asset tag.
Pre par godina sam imao projekat u General Dynamics-u, gde su u to vreme i dalje imali takve praistorijske metode fizickog "obezbedjenja".
Quote from: Hate mail on December 03, 2010, 07:04:48 PM
Mnogo si glup. Zasto malo ne zacutis? ("¿Por qué no te callas?")
no me digas que hablas espanol, batice... xrotaeye
Wave goodbye to Internet freedom - Washington Times Editorial:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/wave-goodbye-to-internet-freedom/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/dec/wave-goodbye-to-internet-freedom/)
Samo da nam ne uzmu Freedom fries; nek' idu ove ostale sitnice...
internet je i di sada bio kontrolisan. problem je sto ga je nemoguce cenzurisati i kontrolisati kao ostale medije. balance is good, batice... xjap
Skini mi se s kurca, majmune. Ker sa ulice ti je brat.
Ova tema jasno pokazuje da oni koji su se opredelili za svoje mecene (politicke, ili ekonomske, ili ljubavne, you name it) NE menjaju misljenja, i sa svojim odavno formiranim u uklesanim u glavama misljenjima ce otoci u grob... Mnogi koji su otisli u USA se qnu u taj sistem do besvesti, jer misle da su zivotom u njemu Boga za bradu uhvatili. :x
Ko je najveci terorista na svetu? USA. Ko su najveci sovinisti? USA... Ko je svetski policajac numero uno od drugog svetskog rata naovamo? USA. Ko je inicirao preko 200 svetskih incidenata i "manjih" ratova nakon zavrsetka drugog svetskog rata? USA. Ko politikom baseball palice resava drzavne sporove i vlada svetom? USA...
Zasto je meni, recimo, potreban wikileaks da bih to shvatio? Pa ziveo sam u USA 6 godina (svih 6 godina 20 milja od Bele Kuce i Kongresa), pa znam kako to tamo izgleda! Unutrasnja politika je manje vise jako dobro balansirana (na osnovu interesa, svakako)... Spoljna je politika podobna okupu "gomile jastebova", ne zna se ko je gori, republikanci samo povecavaju "odbrambeni" budzet, demokrate nisu tako rastrosne, zato su dosta krvolocnije...
(ako ne mozes da im se (USA) pridruzis, onda ih pobedi!) xremyb
_nobody_
hehe, pao Jules u UK.
Pao zbog verbalnog delikta. Car je go, how terrible.
Ja se cudim vama, my dear fellow obicni ljudi, sto umesto da trazite novu Magna Cartu vi hucite uglas da se obesi ovaj sto je pokusao da vas obavesti da ste nevazni.
Zbog verbalnog delikta my ass.
Idi vici na ulici da je Obama Hitler a Hillary kurva, pa da vidim da li ce neko da te u'apsi. (Uostalom, to GoP radi vec godinama, pa nikom nista :twisted: )
Vidi koliko je puta Cindi Chseehen hapsena i proganjana. I ceo code Pink (btw, gde su oni nowdays?)
zanimljiv, k'o i uvek..
http://www.slate.com/id/2276857/?from=rss (http://www.slate.com/id/2276857/?from=rss)
Live with the WikiLeakable world or shut down the net. It's your choice
Western political elites obfuscate, lie and bluster – and when the veil of secrecy is lifted, they try to kill the messenger
* John Naughton
'Never waste a good crisis" used to be the catchphrase of the Obama team in the runup to the presidential election. In that spirit, let us see what we can learn from official reactions to the WikiLeaks revelations.
The most obvious lesson is that it represents the first really sustained confrontation between the established order and the culture of the internet. There have been skirmishes before, but this is the real thing.
And as the backlash unfolds – first with deniable attacks on internet service providers hosting WikiLeaks, later with companies like Amazon and eBay and PayPal suddenly "discovering" that their terms and conditions preclude them from offering services to WikiLeaks, and then with the US government attempting to intimidate Columbia students posting updates about WikiLeaks on Facebook – the intolerance of the old order is emerging from the rosy mist in which it has hitherto been obscured. The response has been vicious, co-ordinated and potentially comprehensive, and it contains hard lessons for everyone who cares about democracy and about the future of the net.
There is a delicious irony in the fact that it is now the so-called liberal democracies that are clamouring to shut WikiLeaks down.
Consider, for instance, how the views of the US administration have changed in just a year. On 21 January, secretary of state Hillary Clinton made a landmark speech about internet freedom, in Washington DC, which many people welcomed and most interpreted as a rebuke to China for its alleged cyberattack on Google. "Information has never been so free," declared Clinton. "Even in authoritarian countries, information networks are helping people discover new facts and making governments more accountable."
She went on to relate how, during his visit to China in November 2009, Barack Obama had "defended the right of people to freely access information, and said that the more freely information flows the stronger societies become. He spoke about how access to information helps citizens to hold their governments accountable, generates new ideas, and encourages creativity." Given what we now know, that Clinton speech reads like a satirical masterpiece.
One thing that might explain the official hysteria about the revelations is the way they expose how political elites in western democracies have been deceiving their electorates.
The leaks make it abundantly clear not just that the US-Anglo-European adventure in Afghanistan is doomed but, more important, that the American, British and other Nato governments privately admit that too.
The problem is that they cannot face their electorates – who also happen to be the taxpayers funding this folly – and tell them this. The leaked dispatches from the US ambassador to Afghanistan provide vivid confirmation that the Karzai regime is as corrupt and incompetent as the South Vietnamese regime in Saigon was when the US was propping it up in the 1970s. And they also make it clear that the US is as much a captive of that regime as it was in Vietnam.
The WikiLeaks revelations expose the extent to which the US and its allies see no real prospect of turning Afghanistan into a viable state, let alone a functioning democracy. They show that there is no light at the end of this tunnel. But the political establishments in Washington, London and Brussels cannot bring themselves to admit this.
Afghanistan is, in that sense, a quagmire in the same way that Vietnam was. The only differences are that the war is now being fought by non-conscripted troops and we are not carpet-bombing civilians.
The attack of WikiLeaks also ought to be a wake-up call for anyone who has rosy fantasies about whose side cloud computing providers are on. These are firms like Google, Flickr, Facebook, Myspace and Amazon which host your blog or store your data on their servers somewhere on the internet, or which enable you to rent "virtual" computers – again located somewhere on the net. The terms and conditions under which they provide both "free" and paid-for services will always give them grounds for dropping your content if they deem it in their interests to do so. The moral is that you should not put your faith in cloud computing – one day it will rain on your parade.
Look at the case of Amazon, which dropped WikiLeaks from its Elastic Compute Cloud the moment the going got rough. It seems that Joe Lieberman, a US senator who suffers from a terminal case of hubris, harassed the company over the matter. Later Lieberman declared grandly that he would be "asking Amazon about the extent of its relationship with WikiLeaks and what it and other web service providers will do in the future to ensure that their services are not used to distribute stolen, classified information". This led the New Yorker's Amy Davidson to ask whether "Lieberman feels that he, or any senator, can call in the company running the New Yorker's printing presses when we are preparing a story that includes leaked classified material, and tell it to stop us".
What WikiLeaks is really exposing is the extent to which the western democratic system has been hollowed out. In the last decade its political elites have been shown to be incompetent (Ireland, the US and UK in not regulating banks); corrupt (all governments in relation to the arms trade); or recklessly militaristic (the US and UK in Iraq). And yet nowhere have they been called to account in any effective way. Instead they have obfuscated, lied or blustered their way through. And when, finally, the veil of secrecy is lifted, their reflex reaction is to kill the messenger.
As Simon Jenkins put it recently in the Guardian, "Disclosure is messy and tests moral and legal boundaries. It is often irresponsible and usually embarrassing. But it is all that is left when regulation does nothing, politicians are cowed, lawyers fall silent and audit is polluted. Accountability can only default to disclosure." What we are hearing from the enraged officialdom of our democracies is mostly the petulant screaming of emperors whose clothes have been shredded by the net.
Which brings us back to the larger significance of this controversy. The political elites of western democracies have discovered that the internet can be a thorn not just in the side of authoritarian regimes, but in their sides too. It has been comical watching them and their agencies stomp about the net like maddened, half-blind giants trying to whack a mole. It has been deeply worrying to watch terrified internet companies – with the exception of Twitter, so far – bending to their will.
But politicians now face an agonising dilemma. The old, mole-whacking approach won't work. WikiLeaks does not depend only on web technology. Thousands of copies of those secret cables – and probably of much else besides – are out there, distributed by peer-to-peer technologies like BitTorrent. Our rulers have a choice to make: either they learn to live in a WikiLeakable world, with all that implies in terms of their future behaviour; or they shut down the internet. Over to them.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/06/western-democracies-must-live-with-leaks (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/06/western-democracies-must-live-with-leaks)
U kom svetu ti Hate zivis...
U post-1215 AD svetu?
Ovo gore citirano je prilicno naivan pogled na svet.
Aha...
Quote from: zagor te nej on December 07, 2010, 06:43:12 PM
zanimljiv, k'o i uvek..
http://www.slate.com/id/2276857/?from=rss (http://www.slate.com/id/2276857/?from=rss)
Odlican je. Hitchens ce mi puno nedostajati kad ga ne bude vise bilo.
Jadan covek, ali bori se, svaka cast.
Pusio je kao lokomotiva jedno 50 godina, a i pio onako rekorderski...korelacija toga sa rakom jednjaka je strasno visoka. Plus, citao sam njegovu autobiografiju, i otac mu je umro od iste bolesti.
Da, da... bio je tu na netu pre nedelju-dve jedan iscrpan intervju sa njim.. neki britanski novinar.
Hitch-22.
Meni neke budale iz Srbije na FB poslali neku grupu, sta li, "svetu treba vikiliks". Poruku sam prvo video na telefonu, nisam obracao paznju i mislio neki vikinzi, igrica neka ili nesto. Posle pogledao, provalio da je vikiliks srpski za wikileaks i procitao par komentara.
To srpsko poimanje demokratije je stvarno neverovatno. :x
Neverovatno, ali neverovatno koliko tamo ima sveta kojima je rezonovanje i nacin razmisljanja totalno poremecen.
http://www.dailygut.com/?i=4835 (http://www.dailygut.com/?i=4835)
WEDNESDAY'S GREGALOGUE: WIKI-CREEP, IN SUM
So, as Julian Assange stews in a London jail, writers are trying to figure out who will play him in a movie. Suggestions include that Doogie Howser kid.
Me? I'm rooting for Steffi Graff.
Now, you know I think Julian's a slime-bag in it for the fame. And the more fame - the more chicks.
Hence Assange's problem now. Mind you: what he's arrested for seems odd. I'm not sure what it is.
But, in part, it's a hazard of rock star life. Sure, these women may be hardcore, leftist feminists - but they were also groupies who slept with him because he was famous. It was a transaction - a piece of his fame, for sex. Once they realized he treated them both like receptacles - it was payback time.
Assange is guilty of being a creep, sure. But if being a dude who uses status to bed girls is against the law, then mankind should be under house arrest.
Mark my words: in two weeks, he'll be doing tequila shots with Kate Moss in a helicopter made of cocaine.
And I won't be jealous. Not. One. Bit.
As for his defenders, a thoughtful blogger writes that it's all about holding the U.S. accountable. Great. But seeing as I don't do diplomacy, I rely on the U.S. to do it for me. So, now that we're lauding the death of secrecy, who's gunna deal with our enemies? Julian? Doogie? Steffi?
One writer also says that the leak's contents are not the main issue.
Well, until they are... to you.
If you want to see what Wikileaks means to you, imagine if it had ANYTHING to do with you.
Last week, when it was reported that Bank of America leaks were near, I could hear hearts around here drop. Who knew: personal bank accounts matter!
What's worse? Try medical records. In the interest of transparency, if I'm gunna date you, shouldn't I know if you got herpes in college? Didn't the left say the personal is political?
Look, I'm tired of people making this a huge "transparency" issue. Thank God Assange wasn't alive during the French Resistance, or we'd be speaking Australian now.
Bottom line: the left loves Assange because he's attacking America.
And our lives demand secrecy - whether in times of war, or warts.
And if you disagree with me, you're worse than Hitler.
"Beograd tačno znao gde je Mladić"
9. decembar 2010. | 15:59 -> 19:24 | Izvor: B92 Beograd -- Vlada Srbije tačno je znala gde je Ratko Mladić 2008, navodi se u diplomatskoj depeši iz te godine koju je objavio portal Vikiliks, a preneo "Njujork tajms".
U najnovijoj diplomatskoj depeši na internet portalu Vikiliks, američki zvaničnici prenose Vašingtonu zabrinutost zbog nesaradnje Srbije sa Haškim tribunalom.
Američki diplomata citira španskog kolegu Ramona Abaroa koji je 2008. ocenio da "Srbija uopšte ne sarađuje sa Haškim tribunalom i da savršeno dobro zna gde se nalazi Ratko Mladić".
Depeše otkrivaju da su SAD i Evropska unija skeptične prema namerama Beograda koji gotovo 15 godina ne uspeva da uhapsi Ratka Mladića.
Povodom depeše koja citira utisak španskog diplomate da je Vlada Srbije 2008. godine znala gde je Mladić, predsednik Boris Tadić tvrdi da Vlada Mirka Cvetkovića to nije znala.
Srbija uopšte ne sarađuje sa Haškim tribunalom i Vlada savršeno dobro zna gde se nalazi Ratko Mladić, tako američki diplomata 2008. godine citira španskog kolegu Ramona Abaroa. Predsednik Srbije ne veruje da je španski diplomata mislio na aktuelnu vladu koja bi, kako kaže, uhapsila Mladića čim bi saznala njegovu lokaciju.
Hapšenje Karadžića je, prema mišljenju domaćih vlasti, prelomni trenutak u saradnji sa Hagom.
"Kada je Radovan Karadžić izručen Tribunalu, i Srbija dobila najviše ocene za saradnju, kada je promenjena vlada, bilo je najmanje sumnji. Ukoliko bude tih depeša, verovatno te sumnje datiraju iz nekog ranijeg perioda", kaže Rasim Ljajić, ministar rada u sadašnjoj vladi.
Vikiliks objavljuje da su američke diplomate prenele da je "savetnik Ivice Dačića otkrio da je bivši šef BIA Rade Bulatović znao gde se krije Radovan Karadžić čak šest meseci pre hapšenja. Ništa nije učinio zbog premijera Koštunice, koji je ideološki blizak Karadžiću, ali i zbog izostanka međunarodnog pritiska, navodi se u depešama.
Bulatović je stav promenio, citiraju Amerikanci, kada je vlast promenjena. Tada je, navodno, informacije o Karadžiću pokušao da razmeni za ambasadorsko mesto u Siriji.
"Mi smo nagađali sve ovo, da svaka vlast kaže da ona prethodna nije htela da uhapsi Ratka Mladića. Sada se opet na Vojislava Koštunicu svaljuje odgovornost, zanimljivo je da se i na Ruse svaljuje odgovornost. Najzanimljivije što smo saznali jeste da se američki diplomata koji radi u BiH sam žali kako su svi vojni oficiri koji su radili na pitanjima ratnih zločina napustili ured Visokog predstavnika u BiH", kaže Ljiljana Smajlović, predsednica UNS-a.
Diplomatski telegrami otkrivaju i ocenu visokog predstavnika međunarodne zajednice u Bosni Valentina Incka da su Sjedinjene Američke Države okrenule leđa potrazi za beguncima. Deo prepiske otkriva i da pojedine diplomate za skrivanje Mladića krive zvaničnike Rusije. O tome je, navodno, sa Rusima razgovarao i šef kabineta predsednika Srbije Miki Rakić, koga opisuju kao posebno sumnjičavog prema onima koji su lojalni bivšem generalu.
Tajne depeše donose još utisaka američkih diplomata o srpskim političarima. Tako je, kako piše "Njujork tajms", predsednik Boris Tadić opisan kao harizmatični lider koji je često neodlučan i politički bojažljiv. Amerikanci su, sudeći prema internoj prepisci, vrlo skeptični u pogledu šefa diplomatije Vuka Jeremića, koga opisuju kao harvardski obrazovanog "vunderkinda" koji svaku interakciju sa Moskvom vidi kao udarac zadat Vašingtonu.
Julian Assange should be awarded Nobel peace prize, suggests Russia
Russia urges Assange nomination in calculated dig at the US over WikiLeaks founder's detention (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/09/julian-assange-nobel-peace-prize)
xrofl
xdrinka
S' druge strane da je obelodanio ruske tajne, dobio bi vrh od kisobrana ili radioaktivni caj i pre cele ove medijske pompe.
Oba, oba, za svaki slucaj. I/ili frakturu lobanje i lomljenje svih prstiju na rukama bejzbol palicom kao onja novinar sto se pre koju nedelju usudio da pise o korupciji u republici FSB.
Putin poručio Zapadu
09. decembar 2010. u 20.12
Putin poručio Zapadu da nema prava Rusiji držati predavanja o demokratiji
,,Ako je to potpuna demokratija, zašto su onda sakrili Asanža u zatvor? Šta je to, demokratija?", upitao je Putin na konferenciji za novinare koju je održao zajedno sa francuskim premijerom Fransoaom Fijonom
Veličina slova: tanjug 09/12/2010 23:30:00
Ruski premijer Vladimir Putin kritikovao je danas Sjedinjene Američke Države zbog objelodanjenih američkih diplomatskih depeša, ističući da Zapad nema prava da Rusiji drži predavanje o demokratiji.
,,Mislite li da je američka diplomatska služba kristalno čist izvor informacija? Zar zaista tako mislite?", odsječno je reagovao Putin na pitanje da prokomentariše prepisku u kojoj je nazvan ruskim ,,alfa mužjakom", liderom korumpirane i nedemokratske birokratije.
Predsjednik ruske vlade je Zapadu uputio kritike i zbog hapšenja Džulijana Asanža, osnivača ,,Vikiliksa", vebsajta koji od prošle nedjelje objavljuje povjerljivu prepisku američkih diplomata, javio je Rojters.
Putin je kazao da činjenica da se Asanž nalazi u pritvoru u Velikoj Britaniji pokazuje da Zapad ima sopstvene probleme sa demokratijom.
,,Ako je to potpuna demokratija, zašto su onda sakrili Asanža u zatvor? Šta je to, demokratija?", upitao je Putin na konferenciji za novinare koju je održao zajedno sa francuskim premijerom Fransoaom Fijonom, koji danas završava dvodnevnu posjetu Moskvi.
U objelodanjenim povjerljivim dokumentima Rusija je predstavljena kao nedemokratska zemlja u kojoj je korupcija rasprostranjena.
Ruski predsjednik Dmitrij Medvedev izjavio je ranije da informacije iz američkih diplomatskih depeša koje su procurjele na vebsajt ,,Vikiliks" pokazuju svu mjeru cinizma stavova koji preovlađuju u spoljnoj politici SAD.
Samo ostro prema kauboyima,nisu Rusi Indijanci...trema imati muda kao Putin i reagovati na vreme.
kao sto vidite nije bas da je cijeli svijet blesav... jedino jos ova nasa zuta goveda vjeruju da tzv. demokratija postoji na zapadu... :roll:
Dzulijan Asanz (ili "As-eng", kako je neko smesno bivse vojno redneck lice sa Arkansas ["...but I think it's also in Tennessee..."] naglaskom non-stop ponavljalo kod Charlija Rouza na Bloombergu pre par dana) nije "osnivac" Wikileaks-a.
A tebe govedo sram bilo, a nabijem ti ga i mame, sto si nekoj meksickoj ili africkoj sirotinji krov nad glavom i hleb iz usta oteo.
majmune, julian je predstavnik mladih i inteligentnih ljudi koji koriste tehnologiju ne bi li unijeli barem malo svjetlosti u ovaj mracni i izmanipulisani svijet. takvi poltroni i gadovi kakav si ti su upravo suprotnost svemu sto je plemenito. ali se slazem da ti je vjerovatno lakse da zivis svoj mizerni zivot lizuci bulju belosvEckim skotovima.
Sirotinjo bosanska, iskenjam ti se u kevin gastarbajterski podrum.
ljakse, citavu ameriku da ti daju nikada covjeka od tebe... xjap
Die, nigger.
sissy. :)
Putin o demokratiji i Pissenageu:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/putin-slams-west-wikileaks-arrest/story?id=12364345 (http://abcnews.go.com/International/putin-slams-west-wikileaks-arrest/story?id=12364345)
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WikiLeaks backlash: The first global cyber war has begun, claim hackers
As Julian Assange is held in solitary confinement at Wandsworth prison, the anonymous community of hacktivists takes to the cyber battlefields
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Mark Townsend, Paul Harris in New York, Alex Duval Smith in Johannesburg, Dan Sabbagh, Josh Halliday
guardian.co.uk, Saturday 11 December 2010 21.30 GMT
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Julian Assange WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Photograph: Lennart Preiss/AP
He is one of the newest recruits to Operation Payback. In a London bedroom, the 24-year-old computer hacker is preparing his weaponry for this week's battles in an evolving cyberwar. He is a self-styled defender of free speech, his weapon a laptop and his enemy the US corporations responsible for attacking the website WikiLeaks.
He had seen the flyers that began springing up on the web in mid-September. In chatrooms, on discussion boards and inboxes from Manchester to New York to Sydney the grinning face of a Guy Fawkes mask had appeared with a call to arms. Across the world a battalion of hackers was being summoned.
"Greetings, fellow anons," it said beneath the headline Operation Payback. Alongside were a series of software programs dubbed "our weapons of choice" and a stark message: people needed to show their "hatred".
Like most international conflicts, last week's internet war began over a relatively modest squabble, escalating in days into a global fight.
Before WikiLeaks, Operation Payback's initial target was America's recording industry, chosen for its prosecutions of music file downloaders. From those humble origins, Payback's anti-censorship, anti-copyright, freedom of speech manifesto would go viral, last week pitting an amorphous army of online hackers against the US government and some of the biggest corporations in the world.
Charles Dodd, a consultant to US government agencies on internet security, said: "[The hackers] attack from the shadows and they have no fear of retaliation. There are no rules of engagement in this kind of emerging warfare."
The battle now centres on Washington's fierce attempts to close down WikiLeaks and shut off the supply of confidential US government cables. By Thursday, the hacktivists were routinely attacking those who had targeted WikiLeaks, among them icons of the corporate world, credit card firms and some of the largest online companies. It seemed to be the first sustained clash between the established order and the organic, grassroots culture of the net.
But the clash has cast the spotlight wider, on the net's power to act as a thorn not only in the side of authoritarian regimes but western democracies, on our right to information and the responsibility of holding secrets. It has also asked profound questions over the role of the net itself. One blogger dubbed it the "first world information war".
At the heart of the conflict is the WikiLeaks founder, the enigmatic figure of Julian Assange – lionised by some as the Ned Kelly of the digital age for his continued defiance of a superpower, condemned by his US detractors as a threat to national security.
Calls for Assange to be extradited to the US to face charges of espionage will return this week. The counteroffensive by Operation Payback is likely to escalate.
The targets include the world's biggest online retailer, Amazon – already assaulted once for its decision to stop hosting WikiLeaks-related material – Washington, Scotland Yard and the websites of senior US politicians. There is talk of infecting Facebook, which last week removed a page used by pro-WikiLeaks hackers, with a virus that spreads from profile to profile causing it to crash. No one seems certain where the febrile cyber conflict will lead, only that it has just begun.
London
At 9.15am last Tuesday a thin, white-haired figure left the Frontline Club, the west London establishment dedicated to preserving freedom of speech, and voluntarily surrendered to police. After two weeks of newspaper revelations concerning countries from Korea to Nigeria, and figures such as Silvio Berlusconi and Prince Andrew, a warrant for Assange's arrest had just been received by British police. It was from Swedish prosecutors eager to question him on unrelated allegations of rape.
The response to WikiLeaks' cable release had been savage, particularly in the US. Mike Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor, said those who passed the secrets to Assange should be executed. Sarah Palin demanded Assange be hunted in the same way an al-Qaida operative would be pursued. The US attorney general Eric Holder ordered his officials to begin a criminal investigation into Assange with the intention of putting him on trial in the US. News of his arrest, even on unrelated charges, pleased the US authorities. "That sounds like good news to me," said Robert Gates, US secretary of defence.
Yet even as Assange prepared to appear in a London court last week, an unlikely alliance of defenders had begun plotting to turn on the forces circling WikiLeaks. They were beginning to attack Amazon, which had been persuaded to sever links with WikiLeaks by Joe Lieberman, who heads the US Senate's homeland security committee; they also hit every domain name system (DNS) that broke WikiLeaks.org's domain name: Mastercard, Visa and Paypal, which stopped facilitating donations to the site, and the Swiss post office which froze WikiLeaks' bank account.
Operation Payback was hitting back alongside a fledgling offshoot, Operation Avenge Assange, both operating under the Anonymous umbrella. These are a loose alliance of hackers united by a near-obsessive desire for information libertarianism who congregate on the website 4Chan.org.
The cyberwar did not only involve obvious symbols of authority, though. For days, from their darkened chatrooms, the Anonymous ones had been watching a hacker called the Jester who seemed to be co-ordinating a series of attacks on internet service providers hosting WikiLeaks. They had noticed the Jester's pro-censorship credentials, deducing he must be receiving help. Speculation mounted that the Jester was a shadowy conduit working at the behest of the US authorities. "We wondered who was really behind his anti-WikiLeaks agenda," said a source.
Attempts to railroad WikiLeaks off the net quickly failed. Removing its hosting servers has increased WikiLeaks' ability to stay online. More than 1,300 volunteer "mirror" sites, including the French newspaper Libération, have already surfaced to store the classified cables. Within days the WikiLeaks web content had spread across so many enclaves of the internet it was immune to attack by any single legal authority.
In some respects, WikiLeaks has never been safer or as aggressively defended. As Assange was remanded in custody and taken to Wandsworth jail, Anonymous vowed to "punish" the institutions that had axed links with the website under pressure from the US authorities. The websites of Visa, Mastercard and PayPal were brought down; so too the Swedish government's.
One Anonymous hacker said: "I've rambled on and on about the 'oncoming internet war' for years. I'm not saying I know how to win. But I am saying the war is on."
Stockholm
Unsurprisingly, the timing of Assange's arrest and aspects of Sweden's initial handling of the sexual allegations prompted his lawyer Mark Stephens to denounce the moves as politically motivated. A computer hacker himself, Assange, 39, achieved both instant notoriety and adulation when WikiLeaks published batches of damaging US files relating to the Afghan war in July. This fame led him to Stockholm a month later to deliver a lecture entitled: "Truth is the first casualty of war." It was a sellout. One leftwing commentator likened it to "having Mick Jagger in town".
That night – 14 August – Assange stayed with the conference organiser at her flat in Södermalm, a former working class area of the city centre that has become Stockholm's equivalent of London's Islington. Three days later, in keeping with his habit of regularly changing addresses, Assange stayed in Enköping, a town 100 miles from Stockholm, with another woman who had also attended his lecture on the importance of truth in a war zone.
Assange left Sweden on 18 August and the women went together to the police the next day. According to Claes Borgström, their lawyer, the women did not know each other before going to the police. Initially, he said, the women wanted some advice, but the police officer concluded a crime had been committed and contacted the duty public prosecutor.
In court last week Assange was alleged to have had sex with unlawful coercion with a woman who was asleep and to have sexually molested the other by having sex without a condom.
In Sweden, among the country's community of hackers and left-leaning political activists, the timing is viewed as coincidental rather than conspiratorial.
"The Americans are very lucky indeed that Assange screwed around in Sweden, a society which takes rape allegations very seriously,'' said Åsa Linderborg, culture editor of the leftwing Aftonbladet tabloid. Film-maker Bosse Lindquist, whose WikiLeaks investigation will be broadcast on Swedish TV tonight, and who has spent many hours with Assange over the past few months, said Assange's attitude to women did not seem in any way striking.
"If you look at the two prosecutors involved in investigating the rape allegations, they are not types you would imagine bowing to any kind of pressure from, say, the Swedish government or the United States.''
A senior civil servant, who requested anonymity, also dismissed allegations of political plotting against Assange, arguing that Swedish culture is often misunderstood. "Swedes do not have an iconoclastic tradition in which you build people up then demolish their reputations. Even when people are celebrities, we accept that they may have questionable private lives. Swedes are capable of seeing the advantages of WikiLeaks while conceding that Assange may have unsavoury morals between the sheets.''
Linderborg, though, says there is a widespread sense in Sweden that Assange's rise to fame fuelled his libido and ego.
"Plenty of women are attracted by his underdog status and the supposed danger of spending time with him. He has several women on the go at once. One person told me he screws more often than he eats,'' Linderborg said.
Of course, given the nature of the web, the allegations have triggered a series of attacks on both women's characters with lurid claims of "women who cry rape" and "bitches trying to send an innocent man to prison".
Operation Payback
Those monitoring the chatrooms used by Operation Payback say its hackers have set aside the sexual allegations, instead concentrating their efforts on amassing greater potency for the next phase of the WikLeaks fightback. The weapons deployed last week were "denial of service" attacks in which online computers are harnessed to jam target sites with mountains of requests for data, knocking them out of commission.
The initial attacks against the Swiss PostFinance required about 200 computers, according to one Anonymous source. Yet within a day hackers were able to recruit thousands more pro-WikiLeaks footsoldiers. By the time the Visa and Mastercard websites were disrupted last Wednesday, close to 3,000 computers were involved.
Anonymous leaders began distributing software tools to allow anyone with a computer to join Payback. So far more than 9,000 users in the US have downloaded the software; in second place is the UK with 3,000. Germany, the Netherlands, Canada, France, Spain, Poland, Russia and Australia follow with more than 1,000. The 11th country embroiled in the attacks is Sweden, where WikiLeaks's massive underground servers are housed, with 75 downloads.
Sean-Paul Correll, a cyber threat analyst at Panda Security, who has monitored Operation Payback since its conception, said it was impossible to "profile" those involved. "They are anonymous and they are everywhere," he said. "They have day jobs. They are adults and kids. It is just a bunch of people." Middle-class professional members working alongside self-styled anarchists.
Ostensibly, Anonymous is a 24-hour democracy run by whoever happens to be logged on; leaders emerge and disappear depending on the target that is being attacked and the whims of members. Correll said: "This group does not exist with some sort of hierarchy. It exists with a few organisers but these can change at any time. That gives the group great power in that it is impossible to trace and define. At the same time it is also a source of weakness as its actions can be unfocused."
Ideas are floated on internet bulletin boards, whose location moves daily to evade detection. Ultimately a proposal hits a democratic "tipping point" and action is taken.
A major test of Payback's mounting firepower will be Amazon, given the size of its servers. The attempt to attack the site last Thursday was half-hearted, but nevertheless audacious. Now sources estimate they would need between 30,000 and 40,000 computers to hurt Amazon and there is a growing feeling among hacktivists that it could happen. If it does, the retailer could lose millions of dollars during the Christmas season.
So far, though, most of the attacks have been principally designed to register protest rather than destabilise companies financially, opting for their public websites rather than their underlying infrastructure.
Two of the internet's most important social networking sites – Twitter and Facebook – are also becoming targets of elements within Anonymous.
Twitter upset hackers last week by removing the Anonymous account – which had 22,000 followers – amid speculation that it was preventing the term #wikileaks appearing on its trending topics. The Anonymous page on Facebook was removed for violating its conditions, a move that has similarly annoyed a cohort of hackers. Both Facebook and Twitter have won praise in recent years as outlets for free speech, yet both also harbour corporate aspirations that hinge on their ability to serve as advertising platforms for other companies.
Their use by Anonymous to direct people planning attacks has, according to many analysts, placed both in a difficult position. Facebook, which still has sites eulogising murderer Raoul Moat and Holocaust deniers, said it drew the line on groups that attack others, a bold move considering the site's WikiLeaks page boasts more than 1.3 million supporters. Any evidence that both sites yielded to US pressure and the gloves would be off. So too for any organisation that yields to American demands over WikiLeaks.
Evgeny Morozov, author of The Net Delusion, a book which argues the internet has failed to democraticise the world successfully, believes the attacks are already viewed by Washington "as striking at the very heart of the global economy".
Another emerging target in the weeks ahead is the US government itself. For a brief time last Tuesday, senate.gov – the website of every US senator – went down. Cyberguerillas claim it is a possible sign of things to come.
The future
The trajectory of the WikiLeaks controversy is almost impossible to predict. On Tuesday Assange will attend his next bail hearing. Although supporters have stumped up £180,000, it is expected bail will be refused, pending a full hearing of Sweden's extradition request. However his lawyer may also reveal fresh claims of US interference in the saga.
Regardless of the fate of its founder, WikiLeaks will continue releasing declassified cables. At the moment only several hundred of 250,000 cables have been publicised.
Analysts now describe the organisation's structure as a "networked enterprise", a phrase that has been used in the past in relation to al-Qaida.
For all the US attempts, it is clear the attacks on WikiLeaks have made minimal impact and are unlikely to affect the availability of the information that WikiLeaks has already leaked.
Meanwhile, Senator Lieberman has indicated that the New York Times and other news organisations using the WikiLeaks cables may be investigated for breaking US espionage laws. At present, who will win the "world's first information war" remains unclear.
Morozov said: "There will be many more people from the CIA and NSA [National Security Agency] hanging out around them."
But the conflict increasingly seems likely to target the real profits of US corporations. Today a 24-year-old from London will ready his weapons for the battle ahead.
mladi lavovi su se probudili... duh dr. che-Ja & Co. je odgovor na nasilje i svojevrsni balans... balance is good tho! xjap
assange pusten iz pritvora
uz kauciju...:)
A jedna od zena koja ga je optuzila za puknuti kurton pobegla u - Palestinu. Go figure.
pa ti veruj zenama...
Dobro sad...
Tajm ličnost 2010: A ko drugi nego Asanž
desk - 14. decembar 2010. u 12.07
Za čitaoce čuvenog američkog magazina, osnivač ,,Vikiliksa" Džulijan Asanž ličnost godine. Predsednik SAD Obama tek na šestom mestu liste.
Čitaoci američkog nedeljnika ,,Tajm" proglasili su osnivača veb sajta ,,Vikiliks" Džulijana Asanža za ,,ličnost godine", čime su mu dali veliku prednost čak i u odnosu na američkog predsednika Baraka Obamu.
Asanž, kojeg je londonski sud - pred kojim se pojavio pod optužbama za silovanje dve Šveđanke - danas oslobodio uz kauciju, dobio je 382.020 glasova, dok se Obama našao tek na šestom mestu, sa osvojenih 27.478 glasova.
Na drugom mestu na ovoj listi našao se premijer Turske Redžep Tađip Erdogan, sa osvojenih 233.638 glasova.
Treće mesto zauzela je pop zvezda Lejdi Gaga, za koju je glasalo 146.378 ljudi, preneli su mediji.
Asanž je nedavno izazvao pravu buru u svetskoj diplomatiji, objavivši na svom sajtu najmanje 250.000 tajnih depeša Stejt departmenta, uključujući i komentare o svetski poznatim ličnostima.
Vebsajt ,,Vikiliks" je 28. novembra počeo da objavljuje poverljivu diplomatsku prepisku između Stejt departmenta i američkih ambasada i konzulata i do sada je objavio samo manji deo od ukupno 251.287 dokumenata, koliko tvrdi da poseduje. (Mondo)
budi se istok i zapad... xjap
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/28/wikileaks-diplomacy-us-media-war (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/28/wikileaks-diplomacy-us-media-war)
Ash, zanimljiv k'o i obicno...
Pola milijarde reci... koliko to dodje u Valerijama? :)
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Right Now- Van Halen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTCnhc-JHTo#)
Čačanska ekspozitura Društva srpsko-kubanskog prijateljstva pokrenula je inicijativu da osnivač ,,Vikiliksa" Džulijan Asanž postane počasni građanin grada Čačka.
,,Kao simbol revolucionarnog delovanja, Asanž je na putu da se kao heroj izjednači sa Če Gevarom, služeći se najmoćnijim oružjem novog doba – informacijom. Duh ovog grada opravdava pokretanje ovakve inicijative, jer Čačak voli heroje", navodi se u saopštenju Društva srpsko-kubanskog prijateljstva.
Asanž je progovorio u ime programiranog, obesvešćenog sveta. Progovorio je istinu o porocima, zločinima, tamnoj strani diplomatske i političke medalje kojom su vratove ukrasili nezaslužni.
Aktivisti društva počeli su sa prikupljanjem 1.000 potpisa, koji će biti predati Gradskoj upravi. (Blic)
Ove budale treba na onaj stadion u Cacku pa kad izvade zrtve komunizma koje su tu nabijene onda njih u upraznjena mesta (kapacitete).
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Dershowitz: Assange has a new legal adviser
ONLY ON THE BLOG: Answering today's five OFF-SET questions is Alan M. Dershowitz, who has been called "the nation's most peripatetic civil liberties lawyer" and one of its "most distinguished defenders of individual rights."
He is the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard Law School. Dershowitz, a graduate of Brooklyn College and Yale Law School, he joined the Harvard Law School faculty at age 25 after clerking for Judge David Bazelon and Justice Arthur Goldberg. His newest and third novel is "The Trials of Zion."
As an adviser to Julian Assange's defense team, what will you be doing?
I will be focusing on First and Fourth Amendment issues, freedom of press and freedom of association and limitations on the government's power to intrude on these rights. I will also be interested in helping to develop the law involving the new electronic media.
Have you ever met Assange?
We have spoken on the phone extensively.
There are those who say he and WikiLeaks may have threatened national security. (Your reaction?)
The First Amendment protects even speech that may be seen as dangerous or threatening by some. I was involved in the Pentagon Papers case in which the same claims were made. It turned out that the release of the Pentagon Papers was good for America in the end. But whenever there's a doubts, we ought to resolve them in favor of freedom.
There is a hearing today in Virginia, where a federal judge will decide whether or not the US Department of Justice can legally force the website Twitter to hand over private information connected to Wikileaks, and if the legal documents connected to the case should be made public. Do you think the US has the right to those tweets?
I do not. I think they have to follow the Constitution and show probable cause or at least a reasonable basis. They can't just seek them. It endangers the associational rights of those who tweet and those who follow WikiLeaks. And there are Supreme Court decisions that go back along time.
So, as an advisor, how will you communicate with Assange moving forward?
We have talked on the phone, and have emailed and we will meet in person in the appropriate time—I will travel to England as the situation warrants it.The issues are fascinating and important and he seems like a very multi-dimensional person. I look forward to getting to know him better and forming a judgment based on personal observations.
But these are the cutting edge issues of 21st century communication.