Poginuo prvi gusar u okrsaju sa privatnim obezbedjenjem. Bilo je vreme.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/03/24/private-guards-kill-somali-pirate-time/ (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/03/24/private-guards-kill-somali-pirate-time/)
Najinteresantniji detalj je EU Think-Thank koji se pribojava eskalacije u gomilanju oruzja na otvorenom moru i kvaliteta privatnog obezbedjenja :) Naravno, za njih piraterija je nesto normalno, ovi koji bi da se brane su problem :) Heh.
Pa kreteni. Za ove je Neville Chamberlain ratoboran. xrofl
QuoteThey say attacks on shipping will continue as long as there is no central government capable of taking on the well-armed and well-paid pirate gangs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Neka mesta su better left to their own devices nego sto bi bila (a i mi sa njima) ako bi ustrojila
legalnu zlikovacku vladu koja ce onda sve da podigne na industrijski nivo.
Russian marines captures the pirates and destroys enemy ship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXNbXR8qAc#)
Prior to this incident, the Russians had captured 11 pirates onboard a Russian-flagged tanker.
They put them on a lifeboat 300 miles out to sea and 'released' the pirates.
:mrgreen:
A evo kako se zapad ophodi prema piratima:
The international law on piracy assumes that individual states would assume the responsibility of policing and patrolling their own waters and to prosecute those seized in the act of piracy. But not all states have the resources and capacity to ensure maritime security within their waters. This is now being highlighted by the on-going piracy problem in Somalia, which after 18 years is still trying to establish a functioning government.
In recent months, Somalia's neighbor, Kenya, has signed memorandums of understanding with the United States, Britain, and the European Union to accept suspected pirates and to prosecute them in Kenya. But those agreements have come under fire from local and international human rights groups and lawyers, who argue that Kenya has yet to pass relevant laws regarding piracy and that its corrupt judicial system cannot be trusted to conduct free and fair trials
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-04-08-voa67-68785907.html (http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-04-08-voa67-68785907.html)
ACLU = banda crvena
Meни интригантна ова изненадна русофилија.... прво онај руски RT сајт са снимцима из Либије, па ово горе... бринем се.
Него, чиме су ономе пробушили нови шупак?
Ma koja crna rusofilija... setam po uobicajenim blogovima on slow friday. Nego kad rusi deluju kao veci pro-usa od Obambija, dosli su poslednji dani :mrgreen:
1:45 / 2:31 (drugi s leva) = M70 AB2 Yugo.
M. Olsen And Malkhadir M. Muhumed, Associated Press – 2 hrs 25 mins ago
COPENHAGEN, Denmark – Any attempt to rescue a Danish family captured by pirates in the Indian Ocean will result their deaths — just like the four American sailors slain by their captors last week, a Somali pirate warned Tuesday.
Maritime experts said the Danes — a couple with three teenage children aged 12 to 16 — placed themselves in grave danger by sailing into pirate-infested waters off Somalia's lawless coast despite warnings from naval forces struggling to police the area.
The family was captured Thursday by pirates along with two Danish adult crew members after sending a distress signal from their sailboat, the Danish government said, adding it was doing "everything in our power" to help them.
Abdullahi Mohamed, a pirate who told The Associated Press he has ties to the gang holding the Danish family, said they will be killed if any rescue operation was carried out. He specifically referred to the killings last week of four American hostages captured by pirates on their yacht.
Mohamed has provided reliable information to AP in the past on piracy.
The American deaths were a game-changer in the world of piracy. Somali pirates have captured hundreds of ships and thousands of crew members over the years — right now they have 660 hostages and some 30 vessels. But virtually all the hostages would be released unharmed after pirates negotiated multimillion-dollar ransoms for them and their ships.
KOji je to mentalni sklop koji sa decom krene medju ludake da mi je znati.
Vreme je za Carpet Bombing. Carpet Diem!!!
"Ne padam na Tibet ili Burmu". :mrgreen:
Ovi su 100 puta gori od onih Bible-thumpera koje su ukokali prosle nedelje.
Mislim, koji caruk idu sa decom medju ljudozdere.... Jbt, pa njima treba oduzeti decu a ne Nasticima. I pazi, pored kariba oni odu da krstare tamo gde osim vode, ajkula i ludaka nema nicega. Jesu li i oni bili u "misiji" tipa golub, maslinove grancice, mir kurac palac...
Uh, al sam se iznervirao!
Beli covek, nazalost, ima antropomorfni dozivljaj ostatka sveta.
Znas ono, vide lica (tj. vide same sebe) u oblacima, vide lica u socu od prevrnute solje kafe. I tako...
Vide Isusa svugde, i vide dobrotu (ili potencijal za istu) svugde.
(http://citizensagainstproobamamediabias.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/picture-172.png?w=372&h=453)
Rock'n'Roll.
ovi nisu normalni, kao ni oni lane sto su slali decu od 12-13 godina oko sveta da obaraju rekorde. cene nece gusari njih...
Zato mi se Rusi dopadaju kad je u pitanju handlovanje gusara.
Jbt. Thomas Jefferson je istrebio pirate poslavsi Marince na tripoli pre 200+ godina. Ceo 20. vek i pored svih zverstava i gluposti, prosao pirate free. I danas, in the age of Internets, Facebook, texting 4G phones, svet ima problema sa ulitanim adolescentima w/AK47 na brzim camcima?
To bi 2 nosaca aviona mogla da pociste. Dodas 3 razaraca trebaju da razrovaju kopneni pojas od 70km uz obalu i nema vise gamadi.
Fuck UN & human rights watch.
...vide lica (tj. vide same sebe) u sadrzaju prevrnute kible i taj rad...
Quote from: Pijanista on March 01, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
Mislim, koji caruk idu sa decom medju ljudozdere.... Jbt, pa njima treba oduzeti decu a ne Nasticima. I pazi, pored kariba oni odu da krstare tamo gde osim vode, ajkula i ludaka nema nicega. Jesu li i oni bili u "misiji" tipa golub, maslinove grancice, mir kurac palac...
Uh, al sam se iznervirao!
Worlocks and Eloys, iz knjige/filma "Time Machine". Ljudska rasa se rasloji na 2 vrse - oni lepi & pametni imaju zakrzljale instikte za opstankom, pa idu tako u opasne krajeve. A ovi drugi ih maznjavaju za obrok, seks, loot... Tome moze da se stane na kraj jedino silom, nikakvim
UN human rights watch bakracima.
dok niciji drzavni interesi nisu ugrozeni, ili i kada jesu ali ne kosta previse niko nista nece ciniti. Narod je slobodan da radi sta mu je volja pa tako razni svet sto odavde, sto iz danske, holandije i australije opkruzuje zemlju i salje decu da obaraju rekorde.
Sto bi se iko mnogo jebavao oko toga. Lud bio lud poginuo.
Pa ugrozava international maritime commerce. Nije mala stvar.
mozda onda drzava 'international' posalje svoju flotu.
Okej...
nemoj reci da si ti za to da se od tvog poreza finansira neka tamo flota koja bi patrolirala ili krenula u rasciscavanje gusara?
Ja bi prihvatio najvise da se odvoji za oglas u novinama u kome bi se upozorio narod da nema dole sta da trazi, pogotovu ako idu licnim jedrilicama. U suprotnom neka se snalaze sami.
AF, interesantan (da ne kazem zabrinjavajuci) za proucavanje je taj "bole-me-k@rac-kad-se-ne-tice-neposredno-mene" attitude koji provejava na nekoliko tema.
pa ja bas mislim da nemam taj pristup stvarima, ali cenim da imamo daleko vecih problema unutar zemlje od neobuzdane potrosnje, zdravstva, skolstva itd. da bi se bas Amerika nasla da resava i taj problem. Zar nema niko drugi? Kako Kinezi, Grci, Spanci i slicni gledaju na taj problem obzirom da su njihovi brodovi jednako ugrozeni i otimani?
Da ne kazem da nisam pristalica resenja poput 'ma to treba sravniti sa zemljom, spaliti, rasturiti".
Tromotorac je postavio zanimljiv clanak o privatnom obezbedjenju. Za pocetak nije lose. Kome je rizik prevelik neka proba sa tako necim.
Zato sto je najvaznija borba protiv CO2 ulaganjem u sijalice buducnosti i vetrenjace. Prioriteti.
http://www.somalicruises.com/ (http://www.somalicruises.com/)
missim sta reci, zaboravio si welfare, lenje crnce, ilegalce koji nam oduzimaju poslove, utvrdjenje istine o Obaminoj krstenici i sl.
Da li mislis da je Thomas Jefferson svojevremeno imao preca posla, nego da salje marince na Tripoli da bi se razracunali sa mediteranskim gusarima?
ne znam ali mislim da sada amerika ima par drugih ako hoces i medjunarodnih prioriteta. Ovi gusari su svakako problem al ne samo za ameriku a mi vec dole imamo neke brodove. Gde su ostali?
Drugo mislim da 'trosak' za sada nije toliki koliko se o tome prica pa deluje da je problem ne znam kakvih razmera.
30 brodova i oko 660 ljudi. Toliko trenutno gusari drze
cijih brodova i cijih posada? americkih?
sve ja to znam i nema sumnje da su gusari problem.
Al' eno Kim Dzong Il je ludak. Gadafi koji drzi naftna polja je problem.
Ahmedinadzat je problem. I to mislim sve na globalnom i vrlo realnom domenu.
Zar sve mora Amerika? I da li su svi problemi i Americki? Gde je ta EZ, Kineska nadolazeca sila, Rusija...? Gde je kanada?
Ja i ne kazem da je to (samo) americki problem.
Ta Kanada je, kazu, negde severno odavde ali se licno nisam udubljivao; cujem da ima puno tzv. Srba pa tako...
Drugovi, kanacka vojska je u A-stanu. Oba topa su tamo, ne moze se i na gusare.
Nego, ovo sa gusarima mi je primer necega oko cega se sve zemlje slazu i svi imaju stete. Mislim, cak ni Cavez ni Luka ne bi rekli da je to sto ovi majmuni rade dobro. Cudi me da se ne stvori neka ad-hoc koalicija, vojni manevri bojevim kasetnim bombama i tako.
Hej razgovora radi, da bolje razumemo Alanovu poentu, pitanje - da li hoces da kazes da:
a) ovo nije dovoljno bitan problem, ili
b) da je ovo skup problem da bi ga samo USA resavala?
c) ovo nije dovoljno skup problem za Ameriku da bi ga sama resavala.
Potpuno se slazem da bi se ovo trebalo resavati sa nekom alijansom tipa 'milosrdni andjeo'.
Interesantno je da poklonici anarhistickih ideja (i tu ne mislim na punk zanr) nikad ne slave pirateriju. A sta je drugo pomorska piraterija nego anarhija?
A sva drustvena uredjenja, bez obzira na nacionalne/politicke/ideoloske naklonosti imaju problema sa gusarima.
"Ta Amerika" strogo ide na big ticket items, na recimo $1-2T kostajuce uzaludne ratove; u tom smislu ovi majmuni u camcima nisu ni prineti.
Mozda ako ih optuzimo za WMD ili yellow cake transport u tim camcima...
Aj plovi barka...
Somali pirates killed by Russian Navy where is the world? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOjdBp167q0#ws)
WTF? Na kraju snimka ide "pri unistenju [something] nijedan pirat nije stradao"?
Ni meni to nije jasno, da li su stvarno prvo evakuisani, koristili su humane bombe, crnci su zilavi, stapmarska greska, zajebavaju se... Ko zna
Mislim, na pocetku se lepo vide mete na palubi
Da, vide se ali dok su im prilazili da ih, pod pretnjom onih 57mm topova, pokupe.
Pa im to onda razjebali dok su se crnje izlezavale (po obicaju) u potpalublju, vezani (oh, boy...).
The rest is your brain confabulating. :mrgreen:
Moguce
Quote from: Hate mail on March 11, 2011, 06:21:50 PM
Da, vide se ali dok su im prilazili da ih, pod pretnjom onih 57mm topova, pokupe.
Pa im to onda razjebali dok su se crnje izlezavale (po obicaju) u potpalublju, vezani (oh, boy...).
The rest is your brain confabulating. :mrgreen:
Procitao sam o ovom dogadjaju u komentarima na onaj prethodni YouTube video rusa i somalijskih gusara ("Why do you lie to me"). Mislio sam da je urbana legenda, ali izgleda stvarno se to desilo.
Elem, ovako se iskorenjuju gusari. Ono sudjenje u NYC tesko da ce ikog u Somaliji da uplasi.
Nego, jel ovaj punacki rus mitraljezac u trenerci? Kakva im je to uniforma? dizel?
Дали су им (црнцима) гуменије чамце да се врате на обалу (која се види на самом крају), а онда су на сцену ступили руски фаготи.
Moжда су им оставили и мердевине нумера један:
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Freed Pirates May Have Drowned
Ten pirates released from a Russian warship 300 miles out to sea may have drowned, according to Russian officials and colleagues of the pirates, raising fears of retaliation against other vessels plying East African waters.
The pirates were captured last week after they hijacked the Moscow University, a Liberian-flagged, Russian-operated oil tanker sailing off the Somali coast. A Russian warship came to the ship's rescue and apprehended the pirates. But after determining it would be too difficult to obtain a conviction, Russian officials said that they dropped plans to take the pirates to Moscow for trial.
Instead, like many other warships that have intercepted pirate skiffs, the Russian marines released the pirates — but not before removing weapons and navigation equipment from the boat several hundred miles from shore. Russian officials gave no explanation for removing the navigation equipment.
A Russian Defense Ministry spokesperson said radio signals from the boat disappeared about an hour after the release. "That could mean that they are dead," the spokesperson said.
Fellow pirates in Somalia also said they lost contact with the boat after their separation from the Russian warship. "We will hold Russia responsible if any harm comes to them," said a pirate commander, Abdi Dhagaweyne, in a telephone interview. "I'm not sure of their safety now because we have since lost contact." – Wall Street Journal
Tough shit, my nizzle.
Svih 5 koje se vide.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kZFSQcnBykc/Tbm4WCBAGbI/AAAAAAAAIfM/FUfv9dpZyEo/s1600/AFP+-+Palestinian+Security.jpg)
Palestinian security forces training in the West Bank city of Jenin
© AFP Saif Dahlah
Nisu gusari, ali je to taj resor:
The Vice Guide To Travel - Liberia - Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSjyYRTDVM#ws)