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Re: Amerikanci, pokajtesja
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2011, 11:35:17 PM »
As they should.

U subotu sam se, rekoh vec, zatekao na poslu i kada me je onaj Hayat vracao kuci, naleteli smo na pitaj Boga koliko zastoja zbog tih neo-hippie kretena.

Nedaleko od 388 Greenwich (Citibank) lokacije, gde je ovaj cekao na semaforu, je i velika policijska stanica (I think 4th precinct) ispred koje su ti 20-somethings (uglavnom idiotska bela college omladina sa trakama oko neopranh kosa, sa onim tasteless/classless backpack rancevima na ledjima i u "isusovkama") sedeli na plocniku, cekajuci valjda da policija zavrsi "booking" njihovih zaludnih drugara.

Secam se da sam, okrenuvsi pogled od njihovih znojavih fizionomija, mahnuo dvema 19 year-old Asian ribetinama koje su, pre nego li ce preci ulicu nepropisno, intently gledale u mom pravcu kroz blago zatamnjeni prozor Hayatova Lincoln Towncar-a - Signature Edition...
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« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2011, 01:15:38 AM »
Sve je manje ovakvih u Amer'ci a i sire:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/28/us/new-york-meyer-fdny/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Treba muda da mu se izliju u zlatu.

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« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2011, 01:43:05 AM »
Ah, zaboravio sam naknadni detalj.

U ponedeljak sam imao slobodno (missim, nema sanse da ja ne blejim 2 dana uzastopno) pa sam posle 7 Corona u dva lokala prosetao kuci. Onda izadjem caskom da kupim 2L vode (ja volim tap water ali iz nekog razloga je vruca kao pisacka u poslednje vreme; to se poklapa sa zamenom one slavine o cemu sam pisao, long story & it looks to be continued) i kad sam izlazio napolje po to u hodniku na prizemlju zgrade vidim jednog 20-something liberal arts major white gay hipster komsiju (koji sa svojim boyfriendom zivi u studiju na prizemlju; ovde je to 1. sprat) kako, pravo sa ulice, sa slusalicama od mobilnog telefona sav ozbiljan nekome prepricava dogadjaje od subote: "Eighty people arrested in a peaceful protest; eighty people... Eventually, eventually.. It's gonna get out of hand".

Ne znam kako sam nasao snage, mental acuity, wherewithall da se, pod blagim gasom (jeo sam 2 puta izmedju piva) grohotom ne nasmejem njegovoj drustvenoj angazovanosti i "out of hand" perspektivi...

Danas sam najpre ljubazno a posle i somewhat annoying zahtevao "plate of brownies" na tzv. poslu.

I'll keep you posted...
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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2011, 03:44:53 AM »
Koji dilkan. Dal malo klanja, pa ce drustvo da se pravicno samoorganizuje.

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« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2011, 04:26:46 AM »
Somewhat annoyingly. Fuckin' Coronas...
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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2011, 10:06:18 AM »
"Eighty people arrested in a peaceful protest; eighty people... Eventually, eventually.. It's gonna get out of hand".

Danas sam najpre ljubazno a posle i somewhat annoying zahtevao "plate of brownies" na tzv. poslu.

mda, peacefull protest, samo su planirali da kampuju mesec dana na Lower Manhattan-u ...

brownies are for campers?  :lol:
Više volim da mi se neko izveštačeno osmehne, nego da se spontano izdere na mene.

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« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2011, 01:25:34 PM »
That's the other brownies.
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« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2011, 06:40:43 PM »

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« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2011, 06:45:07 PM »
Ne vidim to. Blokira mi firma a blekberi mi je trenutno - a verovatno i zauvek - (upravo) crkao. Stavi na imageshack.us.

Nemam ja nista ni za ni protiv njihovih tzv. zahteva; prosto me ne zanimaju. Isto kako sto nisam imao misljenje niti stav oko onih sto su pravili guzvu "za" i "protiv" tzv. dzamije u onoj ulicici kod WTC-a.

Meni je right of way prime a pocesto i jedini concern glede i u svezi sa svim tim svetom sto po ulici nesto radi.
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« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2011, 07:09:42 PM »
Ukratko, grafik koji pokazuje da je udeo u federalnom porezu kojeg bottom 95% (dakle skoro svi) u proteklih 30 godina pao sa 60% na 40%, a gornjim 1% skocio sa 20% na 40% (onih otprilike konstantnih 20% otpada na ostatak od 4% dobrostojecih, ali ne "bezobrazno" bogatih.

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« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2011, 08:26:22 PM »
interesantne cifre. Interesantno je videti sta se to desava i zasto srednja klasa bukvalno nestaje pred nasim ocima. Da li je razlog lenjost, nesposobnost ili nesto trece.

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« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2011, 05:49:25 PM »
With unemployment rising and a U.S. debt-crisis looming, Americans haven't had much good news lately. But there is one bright spot on the policy front: Illegal immigration from Mexico has virtually stopped.

Less than a decade ago, a half-million Mexicans were coming to the U.S. illegally every year, accounting for 60 percent of all illegal immigration. But last year, fewer than 100,000 Mexicans crossed the border illegally or overstayed their visas. And it appears that an even greater number of Mexican illegal immigrants left the U.S., resulting in a net reduction in the number of Mexican illegal immigrants living here.


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« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2011, 05:57:19 PM »
Zato Alane sto je ceo jedan sloj poslova koji su nekad bili domaci, i placali visoke satnice za ljude sa diplomom iz srednje skole -  prestao da postoji.
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« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2011, 06:51:42 PM »
Potpuno su mi jasni efekti globalizacije. Cak sam svim srcem za globalizaciju s tim sto tu ima i dosta politike tipa kako je moguce dozvoliti Kini da kontrolise svoju valutu i dozvoliti im da vestacki odrzavaju nivu uvoza odnosno izvoza.
No, da se vratim na pitanje srednje klase. Sta god da je rezultat nestanka srednje klase, odnosno rasta siromasne klase takvo drustvo tesko da moze da opstane na duze staze.
 

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« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2011, 06:30:04 AM »
jlz ... in nyc

01.33 - Полиција не саопштава број ухапшених. Тврди да су ухапшени само они који су блокирали саобраћајнице. Њујорк тајмс наводи да су ухапшене стотине људи.

02.22 - Демонстранти тврде да их је полиција, приликом преласка из Бруклина на Менхетн, смишљено усмерила на коловозне траке моста, да би их затим оградила мрежом и похапсила. 
Više volim da mi se neko izveštačeno osmehne, nego da se spontano izdere na mene.

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« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2011, 04:34:46 PM »
Zalosna je ta grupica losera 30ogodisnjaka iz kevine garaze. Niko ne zna odakle je supaj, al' kapiram da se zesce razumeju u Call of Duty part whatever...
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« Reply #66 on: October 06, 2011, 03:41:01 PM »

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« Reply #67 on: October 06, 2011, 04:01:06 PM »
 :mrgreen:
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« Reply #71 on: October 18, 2011, 08:27:26 PM »
Thomas Sowell: Have you ever heard anyone as incoherent as the people staging protests across the country? Taxpayers ought to be protesting against having their money spent to educate people who end up unable to say anything beyond repeating political catch phrases."

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« Reply #72 on: October 20, 2011, 05:37:17 PM »
Thomas Sowell: Have you ever heard anyone as incoherent as the people staging protests across the country? Taxpayers ought to be protesting against having their money spent to educate people who end up unable to say anything beyond repeating political catch phrases."


Good point! Trebalo bi u svakom intervjuu pitati te tupane na koje fakultete su isli, da roditelji odmah precrtaju te skole sa moguceg spiska. Ajd' sto drzava finansira 'unutrasnjeg neprijatelja' u akademskom stalezu, nego da roditelji ne trose svoje ustedjevine na skole i struke koje od studenata naprave invalide.
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« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2011, 05:50:06 PM »
But "creative writing" and "alternative media" sounds so hipster.  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #74 on: October 20, 2011, 06:05:30 PM »
"Creative writing" was actually helpful class  :oops:
Tehnicko, non-fiction, creative svako pisanje kao tehnika je dobro. Repetitio est mater studiorum -vezbe, prakse nikad dovoljno.

Nevolja je sa predmetima koji imaju "studies" u imenu - gender studies, ethnic studies, grievence studies, urban studies, social studies, workers issues studies... Tu se skoluju profesionalni bukaci odn. community organizers.
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« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2011, 03:50:09 PM »
The bums will always loose.

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« Reply #76 on: October 21, 2011, 04:42:43 PM »
Upravo tako. Idiotska interesovanja vode u bedu.

Uzme 100-200k loan da bi dobio useless "degree" i onda besni jer zivi sa 10 broke & hungry hipstera u prljavom East Village walk-up stanu iz 1800-tih i sto niko nece da ga zaposli jer ima idiotski tat i 0 skills.

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« Reply #78 on: October 21, 2011, 06:26:22 PM »
Ovde undercover cops su istetovirane celave face sa tricepima kao od kamenja sa kojima nema zajebavanja. Ali oni vode rat protiv Mexican drug cartels.

Ovaj hipster cop radi community affairs u Manhattan dowtown-u... prati ove 99%-bitter-women-studies graduates. Otud drugaciji plainclothes. :)
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« Reply #79 on: October 21, 2011, 06:39:13 PM »
Veruj mi: ovog su izbunarili uz prilican napor.

Ista ekipa i ovde seta i uniforme i civilke, gledam ih svaki dan.
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« Reply #80 on: October 21, 2011, 06:58:17 PM »
I mi konja za trku imamo:

Free Talk Episode 02: Occupy Vancouver

Najbolji je elegantni gospodin sa produhovljenom facom na 3:44

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« Reply #81 on: October 21, 2011, 07:29:11 PM »
Unemployable.
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« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2011, 06:59:22 PM »
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

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« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2011, 09:17:49 PM »
Ovaj prvi sa trademark idejom je super. Koga bi pre zaposlio, njega ili onog tupana sto trazi da mu "drustvo" plati college loans?

Ovom drugom svaka cast na celicnim zivcima.
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« Reply #85 on: October 26, 2011, 02:54:54 AM »
Meanwhile, in Dallas autofelacio:

Cop Tasers Himself


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« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2011, 09:47:48 PM »
Meanwhile, in the blogosphere...

http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_backlash/



Frank Decker has a message for those at Occupy Wall Street.
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« Reply #91 on: October 28, 2011, 08:10:33 PM »
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« Reply #92 on: November 03, 2011, 04:16:01 PM »
National Post

Matt Gurney Nov 2, 2011 – 12:32 PM ET | Last Updated: Nov 2, 2011 2:27 PM ET

My first visit to Occupy Toronto brought me into touch with three distinct kinds of Occupiers. There were the crackpots, of course, ranting about alien invasions. There were the full-time activists, who’d rally against rain delays during baseball games if someone gave them the bus fare. But there were also a lot of polite, intelligent young people, who would sheepishly tell you (but only when asked) that they were there because they’d tried to do everything right and still weren’t getting ahead. For someone who had high expectations for their life, and finds themselves falling behind while others surge ahead, jealousy and resentment is natural. As much as anything else, their presence at Occupy Toronto is cathartic. It’s a place where they can share their bewilderment about their lack of success with others in a similar boat.

Many will mock and dismiss them, and demand they suck it up, get a job and move out of their parent’s basements (or tents in a public park). And for some, including a young man I spoke to who went on welfare because he was tired of working in the food service industry, that’s good advice. People like him simply encourage the stereotype of the Occupiers as work-averse bums. But a new survey of Canada’s youth offers another possible explanation: Young Canadians are financially illiterate, and have no idea how the real world works.

The survey, the National Report Card on Youth Financial Literacy, was conducted by the Innovative Research Group on behalf of the British Columbia Securities Commission, and interviewed 3,000 Canadian teenagers who had recently graduated from high school. Most of them had moved on to post-secondary studies. The conclusions, while not surprising, are still bleak. Some examples: When asked how much they’ll be making in 10 years, the kids are about 300% too optimistic. The average answer was $90,000 a year. The actual average wage for that age group is $31,648. The median answer to that same question was $70,000, and the real median wage for that age group, $26,000. Almost three-quarters believe that they will own their own home within a decade. The stats show that number is closer to two-in-five. The survey also finds that while the recent high school graduates pay lip service to basic rules of financial planning, many of them don’t live up to them: More than half already carry debt (with an average debt-load of $8,000), a quarter of that debt is typically outstanding credit-card balances, and 25% of those with debts aren’t doing anything to pay them off.

Many of these students believe they’ll have their student loans paid off within five years of graduation; meanwhile, student debt levels are hitting record highs. According to Statistics Canada, by 2005, the average student was leaving post-secondary education with $18,000 in student debt, and the Canadian Federation of Students is claiming that today, that number is closer to $25,000. Unemployment for that age group is around 15%, double the national average, and as stated, the jobs they graduate into pay far less than what they’d hoped for, leaving many of these students questioning if their education was worth the investment. StatsCan has found that while Canadians with student debt have about the same overall debt load as those without it, student debts are not productive. The result: Canadians with student debts have a lower networth and fewer assets than Canadians with comparable, non-student debts.

These data didn’t surprise me. I recently caught up with an old friend, someone I’d gone to elementary and high school with. We’re demographically similar, from the same affluent Toronto area, and have a similar educational background. He, however, is something of an activist, and was loudly championing the Occupy cause on social media. When I asked him, sincerely and politely, why he felt so strongly that the Occupiers were right, he honoured me with an honest, thoughtful reply.

“I did everything my parents told me,” he said. “I took all the right courses, got good grades, went to the right university. I listened to my professors there, and did what they said I should. I did extracurricular work out of school, got an advanced degree. And then I found out that my education was 20 years out of date, and there were almost no jobs out there. The only job I could get in my chosen field would never be enough to pay off the debt I took on to get the education that was supposed to make me a successful, self-sufficient citizen. So now I’m working at a bar for minimum wage just trying to pay my bills. For my entire life, I was misled about what I needed to do. So were thousands of others. And people wonder why we’re upset?”

My friend agreed that he made his own choices, and wasn’t deliberately tricked by the system. But he also feels like he went into the world without the educational tools needed to make sure his freely made choices were informed ones. In that, the British Columbia Securities Commission would agree with him — the entire point of their survey was to demonstrate that Canada needs to adopt financial literacy classes as part of the high school curriculum.

It couldn’t hurt, but the problem is bigger than that. First of all, teachers — hard working and valuable as they are — are among the least well-equipped in our society to teach financial literacy. Canadian teachers generally receive well-above average salary, spectacular benefits, generous defined benefit pensions and their powerful unions assure them of near-total job security. The handful of thirty-something teachers I know are among the least financially literate people around, and it won’t hurt them a bit — while most of us need to scramble to succeed, teachers (and similarly compensated civil servants) need to work very hard in order to fail.

Unfortunately, it’s becoming increasingly clear that financial literacy isn’t something that Canada’s youth have learned at home, either. Young Canadians, those with too much debt, overly optimistic assumptions and little plan for the future, are actually faithfully following in their footsteps of their similarly financially illiterate parents. The Baby Boomers seemingly absorbed none of the frugality of their parent’s generation. Over the last decade, the personal debt load of adult Canadians has soared, and now surpasses the mark that Americans reached before the economic crisis in 2008. Recent polling has shown that Canadians want to retire at the average age of 63, but will either be forced to work longer (sometimes much longer) or retire while still carrying debt, hoping that their pensions and investments are enough to pay off their final bills and also keep them comfortable. What might save the Baby Boomers, and will probably not save their children, is that the Boomers can hopefully count on a generous inheritance from their parents. It’s doubtful that many of the cash-strapped retirees of today, counting on an inheritance to pay off the mortgage, will leave much behind for their children, the Occupiers of today.

Getting the youth of today educated in basic financial literacy would be a good start, even if it would mark a change from the self-esteem based curricula of today, which would probably prefer to gloss over the fact that some people will enjoy greater financial success in life than others, that hard work matters and sometimes, people fail. And it will do nothing to solve the problems of either the frustrated Occupiers or the indebted Baby Boomers who raised them. But just because the horses have bolted doesn’t mean the barn door shouldn’t be fixed. Courses in basic financial literacy might be cold comfort to those camped out in Canada’s parks or hoping their RRSPs can cover their mortgage, but if nothing else, it might help get future generations of Canadian students into the 1%.

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« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2011, 10:46:32 PM »
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/socal-street-cart-vendors-hurting-after-occupy-group-splatters-blood-urine/

“Coffee cart owner Linda Jenson and hot dog cart operators Letty and Pete Soto said they initially provided free food and drink to demonstrators, but when they stopped, the protesters became violent. And according to one city councilman, bodily fluids were used in the attacks. . . . In addition to the attacks, the vendors also said they recently received death threats.”
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« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2011, 10:53:35 PM »
 :mrgreen:

U Subotu sam prosetao ivicom tog (privatnog) parka koji su ti odrpanci "okupirali" ovde i zadrzao se jedno 90 sekundi u razgledanju zapadne ivice tog cirkusa.

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Ali majko moja.
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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2011, 11:53:37 PM »
He can conceptualize eating...

Hipsters...
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« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2011, 01:15:13 AM »
Hate, vlasnik tog privatnog parka je Obama suporter i dobitnik nekih "stimulus" fondova. On obezbedio poslovni prostor, NYPD namiguje. Vlas' vrsi pritisak na vas white collar "bankstere".

Pre nedelju dana sam prosao pored slicne copycat gomile u na LaSalle St. ispred Chicago Board of Trade building. One iste budale na koje su prosuli McDonalds job applications, pa se ovi jako uvredili. Gologuzija koju bi riot panduri mogli da isprase za 8 minuta, kad bi hteli.

Ovo podgrevanje je izrezirano s' vrha, sa kulminacijom dogodine.
The bums will always loose.

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« Reply #99 on: November 09, 2011, 07:10:28 PM »
Ne znam da li je ovo montaza....