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Tromotorac

Nazad na temu.... ovo je zanimljivo, top 10 donatora Obami u kampanji 2008:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

Gle ko je na vrhu! I ko ispod (btw, wtf ima univerzitet da placa politickim kampanjama?)
The bums will always loose.


amans

Gagi, da li znas ko sedi na Board of Trustees u tim skolama? Mozda to ima veze. Pa onda, verovatno su zainteresovani i za raznorazne mogucnosti sto se tice istrazivanja (stem cell research, npr.) jer tu je zesca lova, mada je to ipak dosta velika donacija jednom politicaru. U to se ne razumem. Back to the Board...no pun intended :) Ne znam.

Evo jednog zanimljivog clanka. Necu da ga postirem celog, da ne gusim topik, ali moram da izdvojim jedan pasus. Inace, ja Fridmana bas ne mirisim; u stvari imam dosta lose misljenje o njemu. Ali to nema veze. Vredi procitati clanak i mislim da je manje vise u pravu.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/21/opinion/21friedman.html?hp

citat:
Indeed, our allies often complain about a world of too much American power, but they are not stupid. They know that a world of too little American power is one they would enjoy even less. They know that a weak America is like a world with no health insurance — and a lot of pre-existing conditions.

xrofl xrofl xrofl

Sve zavisi na koga misli kad kaze allies.  :evil:

Posebno volim da citam komentare citalaca, uvek ima sjajnih. Evo pasusa iz jednog koji mi se dopao:

Earth to Tom: :mrgreen: Are you listening to what you are writing? To wit: (America) "being an example that others want to emulate." Joking, right? Who in the world, and I DO mean the world, would want to emulate our sick, corporatist, greed-driven nation--which now has an immigration bill in Arizona which will, if signed, allow any policeman in the state to stop any person who looks suspiciously like he/she is not an American! Huh?

And how about those psychopathic Republicans in the Senate trying to stonewall the financial reform bill--which is not exactly a strong, kill Wall Street kind of deal? Oh, excuse me, they have now changed their minds (if they, indeed possess such) and have decided that they can support the legislation, because it has suddenly (magically) become bi-partisan!

Tom, face it--WE ARE A WRECK as a nation....."
etc. etc.


We're lost, but we're making good time.

amans

A ovaj tip, Phil in the mountains of Kyushu, kratko i jasno, sumira zasto ne volim Fridmana. Inace, svi Filovi komentari koje sam procitala su sjajni.  xjap xjap

Phil in the mountains of Kyushu
Japan
April 21st, 2010
12:27 am


Love your list of priorities at the end.

You have 1) "deficit under control," 2) "a new generation of start-ups," 3) "upgrade our railroads and Internet," and 4) more of "the world's smartest and most energetic immigrants."

What about some help for American school kids so they, too, may get good educations to compete with all these el-cheapo tech talents you presumably want to bring in under the H1B visas program?

What about some reduction in the U.S.'s militarism and its billions given to support even more militarism and dictatorships abroad?

What about return to progressive taxation, so the very rich are not getting so shamefully-shamelessly richer?

What about campaign finance reform so Corporate America doesn't just continue buying knaves and lackeys in Congress to do its bidding?

What about banking reform so the most amoral from the U.S.'s biz and law schools don't simply continue the frauds, cons, and parasite greed agendas which are all they know?

And this is just the short list. I look forward to what others posting "comments" may say about education, jobs, and more.
We're lost, but we're making good time.

Monte

Quote from: amans on April 21, 2010, 04:51:05 PM
What about some help for American school kids so they, too, may get good educations to compete with all these el-cheapo tech talents you presumably want to bring in under the H1B visas program?
Што је то канадски образовни систем нешто другачији од америчког? Ништа битно, да ја видим. Гдје је генерална популација сиромашнија (читај: општи ниво образовања нижи, рурална подручја или сиромашни дијелови града) школе су горе, исто ка' и у Америци.

А опет, углавном се не цвичи да нам дјеца нијесу припремљена да се носе са свијетом.

Tromotorac

Amans, ako ti ne gotivis Friedmana, moz' misliti kakvo misljenje tek ja gajim o njemu :)

Juce sam procitao jedan clanak gde uporedjuju USA sa Argentinom. Argentina je, navodno, na pocetku 20. veka bila medju prvih deset ekonomskih sila, imala klimu, resurse i prirodna bogatsva kao ili vise USA, a danas je ekonomski u donjoj polovini ili na dnu, kako kad. A sve zbog 'aktivne' uloge vlasti koja je nacionalizova i nacionalizovala i nije nikad propustila sansu da napravi pogresan izbor. Zatim poredili Obamine poteze sa Argentinskim stilom, i zakljucak je na istom putu smo.

Nego, jel' ozbiljni ljudi i dalje uzimaju NYTimes za ozbiljno? Mora da sam postao neki western rube u medjuvremenu....
The bums will always loose.

Pijanista

Ne dirajte u Friedmana.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

Beskorisni olosh...

SMRT svakoj vrsti socijalizma, a ziveo Darvinizam.
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Tromotorac

Eto Grckog modela u USA; danas Illinois, sutra New Jersey, preksutra Kalifornija...
The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

55% mog bonusa ode u dzep ovakvim nekim idiotima, majkama koje sire noge svakom keru koji naidje putem edabi uknjizile jos jedan cek velfera, bankrotiranom Social Security sistemu kojeg nece biti (vec ga nema) za 10-20-30 godina, ratove i slicne gluposti. SMRT, SMRT!
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Tromotorac

E a ove na videu su uciteljice. One skoluju nove generacije.
The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

Znam, imam u zgradi onaj par "We are New York City teachers!" hippie shkartova...
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

amans

Quote from: Hate mail on April 22, 2010, 10:28:17 PM
55% mog bonusa ode u dzep ovakvim nekim idiotima, majkama koje sire noge svakom keru koji naidje putem edabi uknjizile jos jedan cek velfera, bankrotiranom Social Security sistemu kojeg nece biti (vec ga nema) za 10-20-30 godina, ratove i slicne gluposti. SMRT, SMRT!

Kako ono kazu, The road to hell is paved with good intentions, tako da u sistemu u kome je zakon svi protiv svakoga, jer svako gleda samo sebe....dodje to kojekavih nakaznosti i nakaradnosti.
We're lost, but we're making good time.

amans

Ima jos jedan dobar komentator u NYT, zove se David Sassoon, neki naucnik, biolog koji zivi i radi u Parizu, da li Sorbona ili negde drugde. Odavno ga nisam citala, ali kad je postirao, sjajno je komentarisao.

We're lost, but we're making good time.

amans

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 22, 2010, 04:17:48 PM
Nego, jel' ozbiljni ljudi i dalje uzimaju NYTimes za ozbiljno? Mora da sam postao neki western rube u medjuvremenu....

Sta ja znam kako ga ko uzima....NYT that is    :o; ja obicno u dokolici  :mrgreen:


sta ke western rube ?
We're lost, but we're making good time.

amans

We're lost, but we're making good time.

amans

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 22, 2010, 04:17:48 PM
Amans, ako ti ne gotivis Friedmana, moz' misliti kakvo misljenje tek ja gajim o njemu :)

Juce sam procitao jedan clanak gde uporedjuju USA sa Argentinom. Argentina je, navodno, na pocetku 20. veka bila medju prvih deset ekonomskih sila, imala klimu, resurse i prirodna bogatsva kao ili vise USA, a danas je ekonomski u donjoj polovini ili na dnu, kako kad. A sve zbog 'aktivne' uloge vlasti koja je nacionalizova i nacionalizovala i nije nikad propustila sansu da napravi pogresan izbor. Zatim poredili Obamine poteze sa Argentinskim stilom, i zakljucak je na istom putu smo.

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 22, 2010, 04:17:48 PM
Amans, ako ti ne gotivis Friedmana, moz' misliti kakvo misljenje tek ja gajim o njemu :)

Juce sam procitao jedan clanak gde uporedjuju USA sa Argentinom. Argentina je, navodno, na pocetku 20. veka bila medju prvih deset ekonomskih sila, imala klimu, resurse i prirodna bogatsva kao ili vise USA, a danas je ekonomski u donjoj polovini ili na dnu, kako kad. A sve zbog 'aktivne' uloge vlasti koja je nacionalizova i nacionalizovala i nije nikad propustila sansu da napravi pogresan izbor. Zatim poredili Obamine poteze sa Argentinskim stilom, i zakljucak je na istom putu smo.

zanimljivo...
We're lost, but we're making good time.

Pijanista

Quote from: amans on April 23, 2010, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: Pijanista on April 22, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
Ne dirajte u Friedmana.

vodi ga kuci  :mrgreen:

U pisanom obliku :)

Tebe nema, nema, pa onda nadoknadis  :lol:

amans

...nesto mi se sklopilo na poslu da moram da radim zaozbiljno i prekovremeno :mrgreen: tako da cu biti usporena jos neko vreme, a za to vreme ce basta da se otme u dzunglu, pa cu i tu da se zabavim....no, ne dam se ja tako lako  :)
We're lost, but we're making good time.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.


alan ford

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 19, 2010, 11:25:50 PM
Nazad na temu.... ovo je zanimljivo, top 10 donatora Obami u kampanji 2008:

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

Gle ko je na vrhu! I ko ispod (btw, wtf ima univerzitet da placa politickim kampanjama?)

slightly different angle:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100426/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1772

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Glenn Beck
• Fox News host, radio host, author, speaker
• $32 million

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How he parties: In the past decade Glenn Beck has transformed himself from a regional radio shock jock to a national multiplatform money-making juggernaut. And in the past year, he's used his vast influence to help organize and motivate the Tea Party movement. Beck traveled to San Antonio, Texas, for the inaugural tax-day Tea Party protests in April 2009 and taped his show as he participated. The Tea Party protests in Washington in September drew inspiration from Beck's 9-12 Project, which Beck describes as an effort to reclaim the spirit of national unity after the 2001 terrorist attacks. Beck often dedicates his television and radio shows to articulating the Tea Party worldview, such as concern with the growth of the federal government and the national debt, as well as perceived similarities between President Obama's liberalism and European socialism, Soviet communism, and even German Nazism.

How it pays: Beck was blunt with Forbes Magazine when discussing his success. "I could give a flying crap about the political process," he deadpanned. "We're an entertainment company." Forbes said that Beck's company, Mercury Radio Arts, raked in $32 million from March 2009 to March 2010. That included $2 million from Fox News for his daily television show, $10 million for his daily radio show, $3 million for speaking events, $4 million from his online operation, and a whopping $13 million in print endeavors with Simon & Schuster (books and a magazine). Beck dominated the New York Times bestseller list in 2009, with three separate No. 1 books and a total of 3.5 million books sold.


Tromotorac

Ovo je jos bolje:

Political theater of the absurd

April 27, 2010 Posted by Scott at 8:08 AM

Caterpillar and other companies took billions of dollars in charges against earnings when Obamacare was enacted. One section of the Obamacare bill eliminated a tax break available to companies that provide drug benefits to retirees as part of their insurance coverage. The government's own accounting for the tax change anticipated that it would generate $4.5 billion of revenue over the next 10 years.

Yet when Caterpillar and the other companies took the charges against earnings, the White House suggested that companies were exaggerating the effects of the tax change. Obama administration Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke dutifully peddled the administration line, asserting that the companies were being "premature and irresponsible" in taking the chargeoffs.

Reps. Henry Waxman and Bart Stupak opened an investigation and demanded that four companies -- AT&T, Caterpillar, Deere and Verizon -- supply documents analyzing the "impact of health care reform," together with an explanation of their accounting methods. The Democrats apparently thought that they could eliminate a corporate tax deduction for the purpose of raising government revenue without affecting corporate earnings. That's why deep thinkers like Waxman and Stupak are paid the big bucks by taxpayers. .

Waxman and Stupak even planned to produce a bit of political theater, scheduling a hearing on the chargeoffs at which the companies' executives were to testify. The production was canceled when Waxman was apprised of the obvious consequences of the bill he and his Democratic buddies had just voted for.

I wonder which poor staffer drew the short straw requiring him to advise Waxman that the elimination of a big corporate tax deduction results in a big corporate tax expense that has to be recognized under applicable accounting standards. It can't have been pleasant duty.

Robert Pear reports the results of the congressional investigation in today's New York Times. After investigating, "House Democrats have concluded that the companies were right to tell investors and the government about the expected adverse effects of the law on their financial results" Pear explains:

In a memorandum summarizing its investigation, the Democratic staff of the committee said, "The companies acted properly and in accordance with accounting standards in submitting filings to the S.E.C. in March and April."

Moreover, it said, "these one-time charges were required by applicable accounting rules." The committee staff said this view was confirmed by independent experts at the Financial Accounting Standards Board and the American Academy of Actuaries.

For readers with a short memory, Pear even recalls: "Mr. Waxman, the chairman of the committee, and Mr. Stupak canceled a hearing at which they had planned to question executives on the effects of the law."

These folks are without shame and beneath contempt.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/04/026169.php?format=print
The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

Barack Obama -- self-effacing, no; America-effacing, yes

Barack Obama was never the enigma some thought him to be. His radical associations, his status as the Senate's most liberal member, and the relentless ambition he had exhibited at every turn told us most of what we needed to know about what the substance of his presidency would look like.

Yet we had reason to hope for better when it comes to certain personality traits Obama has exhibited throughout his 15 months in office, some of which have been on particular display during the past few days. Consider first Obama's lack of grace during his turn as a stand-up comedian at the White House Correspondent's dinner on Saturday night. The event itself -- and especially the spectacle of the U.S. president seeking yuks from media types through material written by others -- is nausea-inducing. If Obama had refused to play that game, the departure from tradition would have been refreshing and praiseworthy.

But Obama chose instead (as he did last year) to depart from only that part of the tradition that involves self-deprecating humor. As the Washington Post reports, "except for a mild joke pegged to his falling approval ratings, Obama mostly spared Obama during his 14-minute stand-up routine." By contrast, "Obama went all Don Rickles on a broad range of topics and individuals: Vice President Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, presidential advisers David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel, the news media, Jay Leno, and Republicans Michael Steele, Scott Brown, John McCain and Sarah Palin."

As has often been the case, Obama's ungracious approach to the event stands in marked contrast with that of his predecessors. At the height of the Whitewater scandal, President Clinton told the audience: "I am delighted to be here tonight, and if you believe that, I have some land in northwest Arkansas I'd like to sell you." And President George W. Bush poked fun at himself in various ways over the years: by explaining what he really wanted to say on those occasions when he mangled his words; by using a Bush look-alike to exchange banter with him; and by having Laura Bush interrupt his remarks to offer her a comic take on her husband.

Obama's stand-up act seems particularly unfortunate when juxtaposed with his commencement speech at the University of Michigan. There, Obama argued for a more civil, less bitter national discourse. That's a fine sentiment, and the fact that in a vibrant democracy the U.S. president will always be subject to harsh criticism does not necessarily deprive him of standing to make the case for civility. But a president who uses the White House Correspondent's dinner to zing his adversaries, yet is unwilling to follow the tradition of making fun of himself, can hardly expect us to take him seriously on the subject of civility.

Beyond Obama the ungracious and Obama the hypocrite lies Obama the naïf, a fellow who stays mostly in the shadows but emerges like clockwork when it's time to deal with our foreign adversaries. Today, he emerged to tell the world how many nuclear weapons the U.S. has - 5,113 for those keeping score at home. In the past, the number has been kept secret. According to the Washington Post, however, Obama believes that his "dramatic announcement [of the number] will further enhance [the administration's] nuclear credentials as it tries to shore up the fraying nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty."

It's tempting to conclude that Obama doesn't really think telling the world how many nukes we have will discourage nuclear proliferation. It's tempting to believe that Obama made the announcement to make Israel - which has no intention of talking about its status when it comes nukes - look bad.

But drawing that conclusion would ignore Obama's penchant for similar gestures designed to establish his bona fides with our enemies. It would ignore the bad-mouthing of his country on foreign soil, his willingness to negotiate with Iran in the absence of pre-conditions for the stated purpose of proving that the U.S. is no longer "arrogant," and his betrayal of Poland and the Czech Republic on missile defense in an attempt to curry favor with Russia.

If Obama is an enigma today, it's because of the contrast between his remarkably open disdain for his domestic rivals and opponents on the one hand and his obsequious approach to the nation's foreign adversaries on the other. As enigmas go, however, this one is more troubling than puzzling.



http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/05/026217.php
The bums will always loose.

Monte

Quote from: Tromotorac on May 04, 2010, 04:53:20 AM
Barack Obama -- self-effacing, no; America-effacing, yes

Зашто ти је овај чланак интересантан, Тромоторац? Пљувка је углавном по њему као човјеку (не умије да се наспрда на свој рачун, замисли), а листа конретних политичких гријеха/ставова, овлаш је споменута на крају. Оно, као "е ако је све ово овако, онда се није чудити...".

Човјек је политичар (и то амерички). Зар није послије којекаквих притупих ликова стављена тачка на то сагледавање "лика и дјела" (тренутхних) преЦедника као "очеваогледала нације"?

Tromotorac

Nije, ovaj je trebalo da bude novi Isus Hrist. Hope and Change kao Milosevic 1988.
The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

Jos da zakopa Busha u nekom country clubu, uzme stan i Bog da ga vidi...
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

alan ford

Quote from: Tromotorac on May 04, 2010, 07:04:22 PM
Nije, ovaj je trebalo da bude novi Isus Hrist. Hope and Change kao Milosevic 1988.

koliko su ljudi koji su od Obame ocekivali cuda bili nerealni toliko si i ti nerealan u optuzbama.
za pocetak nasledio je drzavu na nizbrdici i krenuo je od velikih problema (veliku zabu progutaj odmah) koje mu definitivno ne pomazu popularnosti - ni njemu ni demokratama koje ce zbog svega izgubiti vecinu.
Od svega najavljivanog je ispao mnogo umereniji. Mnogo blizi dosadasnjoj politici nego sto se i pretpostavljalo.
Meni licno puno tih napada deluju potpuno 'rasno' obojeni.

Monte

Quote from: alan ford on May 04, 2010, 08:05:30 PMOd svega najavljivanog je ispao mnogo umereniji.

Што је, обрни-заврни, постао вјечити лајт-мотив са демократским преЦедницима тамо доље. Вазда нешто морају да доказују. Прије ће утрчати у рат, е треба да докажу да су већи католици од Папе и "тврђи" од оних других. Треба да докажу да нијесу тако црни/црвени како то изгледа на почетку. Обрни-заврни, прије или касније, сведе се на владање на основу резултата истраживања јавног мијења.

Пошто Републиканци не морају никоме ништа да доказују, они могу себи да допуште Ђорђа од провиђења. И тако два мандата. Заредом.

Што јужније, то тужније.  :twisted:

zagor te nej

To je zato sto je republikancima svaki demokratski predsednik nelegitiman. A i pokoji republikanski. Ajzenhauer je bio komunista in disguise (!!!), kenedi je ukrao izbore, Dzonson je nastavak kradje, Karter nije nista, Klinton je u stvari pimp, koij je sticajem okolnosti posato predsednik, a Obama je Kenijac i antihrist-musliman, komunista i crni panter, kvazi hriscanin i odvratni intelektualac (who reads book after all, drill baby drill).
Gledam ja to svaki dan na Fox-u. Potpuno luda ekipa, al' u ovo sve veruju kao u sveto pismo.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Monte

Quote from: zagor te nej on May 05, 2010, 01:34:46 PMGledam ja to svaki dan na Fox-u. Potpuno luda ekipa, al' u ovo sve veruju kao u sveto pismo.
Што је слаб или никакав одговор зашто демокраЦки преЦедници доспјевају у политичку дефанзиву. Ђорђе од провиђења пет пара давао није што, ко и како мисли о његовој владавини. Скоро до пред крај, кад је постало превише очигледно да ће га разапети не зато што је започео рат, већ што га није брзо добио.

What this country needs is a short, victorious war to ...(stem the tide of revolution, у оригиналу).

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"What this country needs is a good ¢5 cigar".
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

slawen

"I've now been in 57 states – I think one left to go." – Barack Obama at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon.
We take no cash unless we cash justice for you! Are you listenin' to me? I'm givin' ya pearls hеrе!

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

Obama's 'Chicago Way' plunders the private sector
By: Michael Barone
June 2, 2010

(AP)


An interesting thing about Barack Obama is that he chose, on two occasions, to live in Chicago -- even though he didn't grow up there, had no family ties there, never went to school there.

It was a curious choice. Chicago has a civic culture all its own and one that is particularly insular. Family ties and personal connections are hugely important. Professionals who have lived and worked there for a quarter-century are brusquely reminded, "You're not from here."

Nonetheless Obama moved upward in the Chicago civic firmament with apparent ease. The community organizer joined the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's church in search of street credibility in the heavily black South Side. The adjunct law teacher made friends around the University of Chicago from libertarian academics to radical organizer William Ayers. The young state senator designed a new district that included the Loop and the rich folk on the Near North Side.

Obama could not have risen so far so fast without a profound understanding of the Chicago Way. And he has brought the Chicago Way to the White House.

One prime assumption of the Chicago Way is that there will always be a bounteous private sector that politicians can plunder endlessly. Chicago was America's boom town from 1860 to 1900, growing from nothing to the center of the nation's railroad network, the key nexus between farm and factory, the headquarters of great retailers and national trade associations.

The Mayors Daley have maintained Chicago's centrality in commerce by building and expanding O'Hare International Airport and by fostering a culture of crony capitalism with the city's big employers and labor unions. Chicago survived the Depression and recessions to thrive once again. Sure, small businesses and some outfits lacking political connections fell by the wayside. But the system seems to go on forever.

So it's natural for a Chicago Way president to assume that higher taxes and a hugely expensive health care regime will not make a perceptible dent in the nation's private sector economy. There will always be plenty to plunder.

Crony capitalism also comes naturally to a Chicago Way president. Use some sweeteners to get the drug companies and the doctors to sign on to the health care plan. If the health insurers start bellyaching, whack them a few times in public to make them go along. Design a financial reform that Goldman Sachs and JPMorganChase can live with even while you assail "Wall Street fat cats."

The big guys will understand that you have to provide the voters with some political theater while you give them what they want. As for the little guys, well, hey, in Chicago we don't back no losers.

If in the process you've written legislation full of glitches and boondoggles, well, they can be fixed later. The typical vote in the Chicago City Council is 50-0. Republicans don't count for nothing. Down in Springfield they're outnumbered 37-22 and 70-48.

Anyone who has spent much time in Chicago knows the city has impressive civic and business leaders, talented and cultured people who creatively support charities and the arts. But they also play team ball.

One measure of that is the $25.6 million that the 2008 Obama campaign raised from metro Chicago. An even more meaningful measure is the $5 million that Hillary Clinton's campaign raised there -- a virtual shutout in a city where the Clintons once raised huge sums. The word obviously went out: You back Barack and you don't back Hillary.

Now the Clintons are part of the Chicago Way team. As witnessed by Bill Clinton's willingness to dangle some sort of job to Joe Sestak to get him out of the Pennsylvania Senate race.

To some it may seem anomalous that Obama, who began his Chicago career as a Saul Alinsky-type community organizer, should have taken to the Chicago Way. But Alinsky's brand of community organizing is very Chicagocentric.

It assumes that there will always be a Machine that you can complain about and that if you make a big enough fuss it will have to respond. And that the Machine can always get more plunder from the private sector.

The problem with Obama's Chicago Way is that Chicago isn't America. The Chicago Way works locally because there is an America out there that ultimately pays for it. But who will pay for an America run the Chicago Way?


Michael Barone, The Examiner's senior political analyst, can be contacted at mbarone@washingtonexaminer.com. His columns appear Wednesday and Sunday, and his stories and blog posts appear on www.ExaminerPolitics.com ExaminerPolitics.com.
The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

Talk to Al Jazeera - Charles Bolden

"Bolden: I am here in the region – its sort of the first anniversary of President Barack Obama's visit to Cairo – and his speech there when he gave what has now become known as Obama's "Cairo Initiative" where he announced that he wanted this to become a new beginning of the relationship between the United States and the Muslim world. When I became the NASA Administrator – before I became the NASA Administrator - he charged me with three things: One was that he wanted me to re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, that he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with predominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering."
The bums will always loose.

slawen

Овај би мог'о кад опосли то са муслиманима да дође у тзв. Србију да објасни великој већини младих људи да треба да буду васпитани, очешљани, умивени и образовани, поносни на историјски допринос знаменитих Срба науци и уметности, уместо да им идоли буду Аркани* и Амстердами, а недостижни узори Бајатовићи и Динкићи.... Миссим, иста мета - исто одстојање, па кад је човек већ ужиган.

*има корен у "arcanе", скривени сарадник службе преко кога су контролисали "навијаче" и ситан олош.
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Tromotorac

E jes, NASA direktor ce da ih ubedi ako niko drugi nece.
The bums will always loose.