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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #100 on: 10-12-2009, 14:59:25 »
Ako se uzme neka američka lista 100 najbolji SF romana nastala 1990 ili pre, dakle, proverene stvari, ne trenutni hitovi... i ako se ta lista propusti kroz ono što su ponudili Kentaur, Polaris i Znaksagite/Monolit, videćemo da je znatna većina objavljena kod nas. I upravo je ta esencija dobrih stvari proširila publiku... jer da je objavljivano sve redom što je pisano, mnogi poluljubitelji SF-a bi odustali.
Mi smo praktično propustili pisce koji su radili u serijama, stotine romana na sličnu temu na nivou X-100, što je ekvivalent današnjim Džordanima i njima sličnim. Uvek je bilo pisaca koji beskrajno drve jednu temu, ali danas je nasilni marketing od njih stvorio zvezde; u vreme sedamdesetih, dok se suvi kvalitet doslovno cedio sa svih polica i gde su najbolji pisci bili najcenjeniji i najčitaniji, Džordan i ekipa saga&nastavaka ne bi bila ni pogledana.

Da, ali navala Džordana, Martina i sličnih, kao i pomama za Zelaznijevim "Amberom" pre toga pokazuju da je čitalaštvo bilo gladno i drugačije fantastike od one koja je nuđena kroz prilično uštogljene uredničke vizije. Sem toga, neka bude da je 100 romana veličanstveno, ali pola "Polarisa" je ne tako visokog kvaliteta i svodi se na bezumne serijale sa robotima mesto zmajeva. Dapače, upravo je sf izmislio ceđenje suve drenovine u vidu beskrajnih ciklusa. Fentezi je u jednom trenutku samo preuzeo taj recept.
Sebarsko je da budu gladni.
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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #101 on: 10-12-2009, 15:44:11 »
Nije ista publika za fentezi i sf. Nego su se fantastičari dosetili i krenuli u svoju ofanzivu.


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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #102 on: 10-12-2009, 15:50:22 »
Tacno, oni koji vise vole epsku fantastiku, nesto slabije citaju sf ( moj slucaj ) i obrnuto, ljubitelji cistog sf, obicno manje citaju epsku fantastiku. Naravno, nije kod svih tako, ali mislim da je kod vecine upravo to slucaj.

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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #103 on: 10-12-2009, 15:59:17 »
Glavni uzrok je verovatno Gospodar prstenova. A Stiven Donaldson je imao spremnu debelu knjigu. Ja se toga sećam s početka osamdesetih. Taj momenat je maksimalno iskorišćen (Tolkin). Tu je negde i kraj SF-a kakav je do tada bio (novi talas), a pojavili su se novi autori, jedan od njih je bio Gibson, potpuno u drugom fazonu.

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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #104 on: 10-12-2009, 17:14:27 »
Eh, nije Džordan LOŠ pisac...u redu, piše (tj. pisao je) ogroman serijal. Ali dosta je dobar wordsmith (mada mu se drama u poslednjih par knjiga sve više i više ruši). Treba pisca gledati po kvalitetu naravno i po zabavi), a Džordan je dosta kvalitetan pisac i mislim da bi imao prođu i tokom godina u kojima se nisu gotivili serijali.

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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #105 on: 10-12-2009, 18:04:10 »
Ne bi imao prodju ako nista drugo onda zbog broja strana po knjizi, sistemu isplate pisca i krajnje cene knjige. Nije cak u pitaju ni broj knjiga. O kvalitetu samog dela ne bih sada  xfrog
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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #106 on: 10-12-2009, 18:23:07 »
Tu je negde i kraj SF-a kakav je do tada bio (novi talas), a pojavili su se novi autori, jedan od njih je bio Gibson, potpuno u drugom fazonu.

Nije Gibson bio u drugom fazonu. Njegovo stvaralaštvo odlikovalo se korišćenjem narativnih tehnika svojstvenih kriminalističkim romanima, erudicijom autora, odredjenom estetikom i pokušajem da se razume naša svakodnevnica. Crna vizija sveta nasledjena od Novog talasa, produbljena je cinizmom neoliberalizma u kome je živeo. Njegovi protagonisti nemaju u sebi ničeg revolucionarnog, nego pokušavaju samo da prežive u tržišnom hiper-liberalizmu. Jedina novina je bila ta sajberpankovska nano-tehnoligija i estetika, već poznata, ali ovde stavljena u prvi plan.
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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #107 on: 19-12-2009, 01:28:47 »
Nostalgični Neuromanser! Igrao sam tu igricu nekad, mislim da takvo vreme tek dolazi.

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Re: Zlatno doba SF-a
« Reply #108 on: 04-10-2018, 15:45:07 »
Gollancz’s Science Fiction Masterworks series celebrates its 20th anniversary with a new line – these are the Golden Age Masterworks!

Gollancz is thrilled to mark the 20th anniversary of its multi-million selling series of classics, the Science Fiction Masterworks, with the launch of a new strand of publishing focusing on key titles from the golden age of science fiction’s history.
The Science Fiction Masterworks were originally launched in January 1999 with a list curated by Malcolm Edwards, then MD of Orion Books, now Chairman of Gollancz, advised by luminaries of the genre such as George R. R. Martin, Arthur C. Clarke, Terry Pratchett and Ursula K. Le Guin. The range has gone on to include well over a hundred of the best and most influential works of science fiction, including Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Dune and The Left Hand of Darkness. A sister imprint, the SFGateway, was launched in 2011 to make the vast backlists of many science fiction authors available for the first time in eBook, and now hosts over three thousand titles.
Marcus Gipps, editorial director of the SF Masterworks says, ‘The early days of SF produced many influential and much-loved works which, by virtue of their length and pulp-factor, have never quite been a perfect fit for the main Masterwork list. However, the success of such titles on the SFGateway imprint has shown that there is a market for these fast, exciting reads.’
Launching in January 2019, the first tranche of Golden Age Masterworks will include titles from Arthur C. Clarke (introduced by Stephen Baxter), C.L. Moore, Henry Kuttner and E.E. ‘Doc’ Smith (introduced by Mike Carey). Later months will include further titles from these authors as well as Leigh Brackett and Jack Williamson, with more names to be announced.
Publishing as B-format paperbacks with an RRP of £8.99, this new series will feature a uniform design that will emulate but be distinct from the SF Masterwork list. These titles will be perfect additions to an existing collection, or the beginning of a new one. The Golden Age awaits!

THE SANDS OF MARS by ARTHUR C. CLARKE – Jan 2019

DOOMSDAY MORNING by CL MOORE – Jan 2019

GALACTIC PATROL by E.E. ‘DOC’ SMITH – Jan 2019

FURY by HENRY KUTTNER – Jan 2019

EARTHLIGHT by ARTHUR C. CLARKE – Feb 2019

GRAY LENSMAN by E.E. ‘DOC’ SMITH – Feb 2019

NORTHWEST OF EARTH by CL MOORE – March 2019

SECOND-STAGE LENSMEN by E.E. ‘DOC’ SMITH – March 2019

JIREL OF JOIRY by CL MOORE – April 2019

CHILDREN OF THE LENS by E.E. ‘DOC’ SMITH – April 2019

AGAINST THE FALL OF NIGHT by ARTHUR C. CLARKE – May 2019

JUDGEMENT NIGHT by CL MOORE – June 2019
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