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Pijanista

uh, jedva cekam da vidim i cujem "Postupi po naredjenju"

Tromotorac

Quote from: Pijanista on March 10, 2011, 09:25:22 PM
Smrt, smrt, O, SMRT sindikatima!


Sindikati su mafijaske organizacije. Na Midwestu su veoma opasne, umeju fizicki da se obracunaju sa onima koji ne pristanu da im se pridruze, od obicnih batina do polomljenih ruku, nogu i glava, ili - ako imas srece - samo stete na kolima, isecene gume ili razbijena svetla, stakla. U right to work states, su manje agresivni.

A sto je najgore, ta kolektivisticka udruzenja zabole za pojedince. Briga njih da li ce gazda/poslodavac/drzava da otpusti tu i tamo 10-100-1000 radnika, dok oni zadrzavaju svoje pregovaracke poluge. Oni ce pre pristati da njihovi clanovi budu otpuisteni, nego da sindikat izgubi neka pregovaracka prava. Po definiciji, fraudelent, zlocinacko udruzenje.
The bums will always loose.

Pijanista

Oni su znacajno doprinelu krahu Detroita.
Da citiram jednog ekonomistu iz naftne industrije, pre par decenija u SAD, sindikat se borio za "prava" rudara uglja, vece plate itd: "Their Union is US biggest oil salesman".

AFord

Quote from: Tromotorac on March 10, 2011, 09:42:19 PM
A sto je najgore, ta kolektivisticka udruzenja zabole za pojedince. Briga njih da li ce gazda/poslodavac/drzava da otpusti tu i tamo 10-100-1000 radnika, dok oni zadrzavaju svoje pregovaracke poluge. Oni ce pre pristati da njihovi clanovi budu otpuisteni, nego da sindikat izgubi neka pregovaracka prava. Po definiciji, fraudelent, zlocinacko udruzenje.

ima jedan fantastican dokumentarac 'American dream' koji je 80-ih dobio i oskara. Film prati strajk i strajkace u Ostinu, malom gradicu u Minesoti gde je najveci (i jedini) poslodavac svinjska klanica i proizvodjac mesnog nareska.
Fantasticno je za gledati prvo strajkace, prvo sta oni hoce (nudili su im iznad prosecne dnevnice koju su odbili), preko vodja lokalnog sindikata koji teraju strajk mimo te sindikalne organizacije na federalnom nivou (jer isti nisu hteli posto su ovi vec dobili ponudu vecu od vecine ostalih lokalnih ogranaka) i sve preko konsultanta/savetnika kog su doveli iz Njujorka da im pomogne oko organizovanja.
Kraj je tragican. Posle 3-4 meseca svi radnici gube posao, fabrika zaposljava nove iz okolnih mesta, grad tone, lokalne vodje sindikata se sto sele u druge gradove i preuzimaju nove funkcije, a savetnik se dobro naplativsi svoje usluge vraca kuci. Naravno on je bio i glavni zagovornik da se ne popusti, da se tera do kraja a svako odugovlacenje mu je bila nova lova.

Ako niste gledali pogledajte. odlican film.


Pijanista

Wisconsin Assembly passes bill to curb collective bargaining

Pijanista

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/03/14/ray.sweat.lodge.witnesses/index.html?hpt=T2

Cape Verde, Arizona (CNN) -- James Arthur Ray's spiritual warriors journeyed to the foot of the mystical red cliffs of Sedona, Arizona, to find enlightenment. They were willing to shave their heads, meditate in the desert for 36 hours without food and water, then symbolically die and be reborn in a sweat lodge ritual.

They were seekers, not flakes. Doctors, engineers, salespeople, small-business owners -- professionals who paid $10,000 to break down personal barriers they believed kept them from achieving all they could.

But how hard participants in Ray's motivational seminars pushed themselves -- and how intensely Ray pushed his acolytes -- is one of the central questions being examined here in Yavapai County as his trial on manslaughter charges unfolds.

Prosecutors say three spiritual warriors died from the heat after 2½ hours in a sweat lodge on October 8, 2009. Nineteen others collapsed, vomited, had trouble breathing, hallucinated, foamed at the mouth or fell unconscious.

Some of the 55 people who followed Ray into the sweat lodge are now reliving the experience at his criminal trial at a remote desert courthouse far from the magic of Sedona. There are no New Age crystal shops or aura readers here. Roaring lions can be heard from a neighboring safari park.

Native Americans: Trial shows exploitation of our traditions

Ray, a 53-year-old preacher's son, best-selling author and self-help coach, is accused of recklessly causing the deaths of Kirby Brown, 38, of Westtown, New York; Lizbeth Neuman, 49, of Prior Lake, Minnesota; and James Shore, 40, of Milwaukee. If convicted of three counts of reckless manslaughter, he could go to prison for more than 30 years.

Ray's Los Angeles legal team says that what happened was an accident, not a crime. The defense suggests the participants were poisoned, either by pesticides in the dirt or by rat poison that came into contact with the tarps covering the sweat lodge. They say authorities minimized these possible causes and instead focused immediately on building a case against Ray, the California-based New Age outsider.

Lead prosecutor Sheila Polk has indicated the trial will unfold in three stages: testimony from the participants, followed by medical experts, and finally police investigators. The trial opened on March 1 and could last four to six months.

So far, seven witnesses have offered a detailed timeline of the seminar's events, along with gripping descriptions of a sweat lodge ceremony gone terribly wrong. They've talked about what drove them to become spiritual warriors, and what they expected to achieve. And they've described the extremes some people will endure in the name of enlightenment.

They've also offered a glimpse of the last conscious moments of the victims -- Brown, Neuman and Shore.

Inside the lodge, Brown, a free-spirited painter and avid surfer who spent most of her time in Los Cabos, Mexico, drew her knees to her chest and rocked back and forth, chanting, "We can do it," according to testimony.

Neuman, a divorced mother of three who worked as a database administrator, quietly hunkered down until she slipped into unconsciousness. Fellow participants believe she was determined to finish the sweat lodge ceremony because she felt ashamed after Ray chastised her for being with a group of experienced volunteers who shared snacks and a bottle of wine.

"Choosing to go in the sweat lodge, I believe she had something to prove to James Ray," said Jennifer Haley, a volunteer from California who was a member of what Ray called the Dream Team. "I believe that her feeling shameful absolutely had everything to do with her dying in that sweat lodge."

Shore, a father of three who worked for an internet marketing company, carried one stricken women out of the lodge, and returned. He was found unconscious next to Brown. He was holding her hand as if he were comforting her, according to testimony.

Witnesses said Canadian real estate agent Dennis Mehravar emerged from the sweat lodge vomiting and screaming, "My heart, my heart! I don't want to die!" He testified that he passed out. When he regained consciousness, he asked a volunteer if he was dead and was told, "No, you're back." Mehravar testified that Ray later told him he had been reborn.

Lou Caci, a long time friend of Ray, became so disoriented that he staggered into the pit of hot stones, burning his arm and letting out "a bloodcurdling scream," according to testimony. After he was hosed down and cooled off, Ray encouraged Caci to return to the sweat lodge, saying that he would carry a permanent reminder of his experience, according to testimony.

Ray already has settled the civil claims against him, paying an undisclosed amount of money, according to his website.

He was riding high as he planned the 2009 Spiritual Warrior session, which was held at the 70-acre Angel Valley Retreat. His book, "Harmonic Wealth: The Secret of Attracting the Life You Want," made the New York Times best-seller list the previous year, and it was getting him noticed. He appeared on "The Oprah Winfrey Show," "Larry King Live" and "The Today Show."

His seminars offered an eclectic mix of New Age spirituality, corporate team building exercises and Native American rituals. As he told participants before the sweat lodge ceremony: "I might even chant in Hebrew."

Ray and the people he coached believed that achieving altered states of consciousness led to "breakthroughs," according to testimony. Drugs and alcohol were not permitted inside their "sacred space." Instead, Ray exhorted participants to "play full on" in exercises that involved role-playing, sleep deprivation, lectures, journal writing, fasting and physical challenges.

"If you choose to play full on, you are going to have one of the most intense altered states you've ever had in your entire life," he told the four dozen participants and seven experienced Dream Team volunteers, according to tapes played in court.

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