Lavkraft

[WARLOCK]

autor knjige ce biti Djordje Petrovic prevedene su samo cetiri price..price ce biti ona vesticija kuca,tajna srebrnog kljuca,ktuluu pa cetvrti.. hmm ne mogu se setiti..
Nekronomikon sa 600 strana bi ugrabio sto pre ajde ljudi dajte gas ..

[Kunac]

Da li je bilo reči o ovom filmu u okviru ovog - ili nekog srodnog - topika? Verovatno jete, ali evo jednog ultra pozitivnog rivjua s DREAD CENTRAL-a.

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Hajpovanje? Mođžda. Ipak, kontam da ovo definitivno vredi nabaviti.

Cthulhu (2007)
Starring Jason Cottle, Scott Green, Dennis Kleinsmith, Tori Spelling

Directed by Dan Gildark and Grant Cogswell

I have been dreading the arrival of Cthulhu. My fascination with all things Lovecraft is well documented and I have been following this film's development for a while. As I learned more about the film, I grew ever more skeptical about the final product's success. It appeared that anything that could go wrong with it had done so; he production had hit money troubles, they had Tori Spelling in the cast, and then there was the "gay thing".

Cthulhu's creators had made no secret that they were planning to attack several hot issues within their film, not the least of them was homosexuality. I discussed this with Cogswell when I interviewed him, and while he had good reasoning for his approach to the main character, I found my self still uneasy with the premise. Add to this an attack on American world view and environmentalism and I was beginning to fear that there was no way that this film was going to succeed.

Too often writers and directors add in materials to Lovecraftian stories in order to help translate the premise into a functional film framework. The problem here is that usually the film's premise just cannot stand up to the weight of the issues presented and one or the other gets lost in the resulting rubble. These films just collapse under their own weight and we're usually left with a mess and another example of why it's so hard to make a great H.P. movie. So, given all that Cogswell has claiming to have done to a simple story like "The Shadow Over Innsmouth", it was easy to see why I was so scared that Cthulhu was going to be one of the biggest debacles to ever grace the Old One's mythos.

I couldn't have been more wrong.

Everything I thought that was going to make Cthulhu not work actually ended up making it a stronger, more horrifying experience. The experience of watching this film was as perfect a translation of modern times through the lens of Lovecraft as I have ever seen attempted. Director Dan Gildark and writer/director Grant Cogswell have pulled of the near impossible: They have created a monster that is not only provocative and challenging, but beautiful all at the same time.

I don't even know where to begin.

The story centers on Russell Marsh, who returns to Rivermouth because his mother has just died. In returning, Russell (played with an awesome quiet cool by Jason Cottle) comes to face the small town he left behind for one of a more accepting size, an odd distant zealot of a father, and a mystery brought about by a "from beyond the grave" message from his mother. The plot is simple, but they way it plays out is anything but.

The town is very off to Russell. They do not accept him and they even shun him a bit. Townsfolk empathic to Russell's cause are chided and when they offer help, they are terrified to do so. Is this all due to Russell's lifestyle? Or is there something more sinister at hand? Cthulhu expertly blurs the lines of what the real reason is; I never got a feel that it was really one over the other.

Russell is, for the most part, left to deal with things on his own. There's a passing love interest, a childhood friend now all grown up; Mike (Green). Russ and Mike were once friends (and more), but Mike grew up and got a family and a kid. The family is gone and now Mike may be open to Russ's advances. This is a complex and tender relationship that is more deep and real than almost any other film I have ever seen on the subject matter. This in itself says volumes about the performances turned in by Cottle and Scott Green. They effortlessly convey the delicate relationship, which makes the rest of the film all the more powerful.

As Russ struggles with the confusing relationship between him and Mike, he also has to face the family he left behind. His father, the head of a weird cult call the "Esoteric Order of Dagon", is brought to life by the unyielding performance of Dennis Kleinsmith. Reverend Marsh and crew worship the Old Ones and are not about to hide their glee at the prospect of their deities immanent return. Russell feels guilty for leaving and now, estranged from his father, he struggles to make sense of his place within the family now that his one anchor to it (his mother) is gone. It's this type of atavistic guilt that permeates so much of Lovecraft's work and never before have I seen it fleshed out so well. Cthulhu uses its framework to create, via Russell, a layer of guilt that almost seems suffocating. Again, questions are raised: Is Russell's father more upset that his son is gay, or that he has not yet joined the fold?

Tori Spelling makes an appearance as a sultry housewife with an ulterior motive. She plays the part with a weird mix of slight camp and sex. She does nothing to really detract from the film, which is what I had feared. She's a strange antithesis to the character of Mike in every way imaginable.

Swirling around all of this is a world that is coming apart at the seams. Global warming, specie extinctions, human apathy, global economics and politics are just a few things that we get a feeling for in the film. It's fed to us by passing news on the television or radio and it serves to paint a bleak world for all of this to take place within.

Painting a picture of this crumbling dystopia is the sweeping landscapes and worn, established buildings that make up the Rivermouth town and surrounding area. Director Dan Gildark and cinematographer Sean Kirby choose to insert wide helicopter shots of landscapes that appear to float beside the ocean. Their vast greens and blues give us the feeling of insignificance that is key to these tales. The art direction team of Liz Cawthon and Etta Lilienthal weave together nightmarish images of unreal rooms, tight terror tunnels and boxes of live human limbs. Whether it dreamt or awake, the images served up by this crew deserve more affirmatory adjectives than my thesaurus has at the moment.

Cthulhu is not a movie for everyone. It doesn't need to be. It's paced and deliberate and doesn't try to be anything it's not. It's the simple story of a man, trying to understand who he is, where he is, and why the world is the way it is. These are questions we all can ask, but a lot of us choose to ignore. Cthulhu is not about squid-headed monsters or formless beasts from the void. It's about the sad fact that humans are not the center of the universe, that in the real game of life all of the big issue we face don't amount to much when the real end comes. Dan Gildark and Grant Cogswell have sculpted an enigmatic look at the reality of humanity, and the persistence of fate. For even when we do come to understand that we are just small insects dancing on the head of a pin, the horror comes when we then understand that even insects have a destiny.

One that there is no escape from...

[Ghoul]

ne bih da zvučim negativno, ali koja je zaista poenta ovoga:

autor knjige ce biti Djordje Petrovic prevedene su samo cetiri price..price ce biti ona vesticija kuca,tajna srebrnog kljuca,ktuluu pa cetvrti...

naročito u poređenju sa ovim:

samo jedan je ghoulov Nekronomikon od 600 strana u tvrdom povezu velikog formata, već na ovogodišnjem Sajmu knjiga.

vesticja kuca već postoji na srpskom, u sasvim ok prevodu; tajna srebrnog kljuca takođe (šta više, ona je deo ciklusa i malo je bezveze vaditi je iz kontexta, odnosno ako ta četvrta nije kroz kapiju srebrnog ključa, koja TAKOĐE već postoji na srpskom); znači, jedino je ktulu premijerno tu...

ali ČEMU više te sitne knjižice sa 4-5 proizvoljno odabrane pričice???

[WARLOCK]

pa knjiga ce biti tu negde oko 200 strana..ali ne znam zasto bas tih nekoliko prica...ako kazes da vec postoji prevedene price jel su objavljene negde,da li ima da se kupi po knjizarama?,ja nikad nisam naleteo..od lavkrafta sam jedino citao Dextera Vorda..ali na zalost knjige na engl. ne citam..

[Ghoul]

VEŠTICA u radovom 's onu stranu sna', SREBRNI KLJUČ u gradininim 'u planinama ludila'.

[Ghoul]

ma biće knjiga o lavkraftu kolko oćeš, ali samo jedan je ghoulov Nekronomikon od 600 strana u tvrdom povezu velikog formata, već na ovogodišnjem Sajmu knjiga.

dok čekamo i taj dan, evo kako neki izvori predstavljaju naslovnu stranu ovog izdanja (zapazite manju štamparsku grešku u naslovu):




još ktuloidne zabave, ovde:

http://lolthulhu.com/%3E

[Alexdelarge]

Video sam danas po knjizarama,da se u prodaji nalazi novo izdanje knjige "Slucaj Carlsa Dekstera Vorda" po cijeni od 800 din.

Imali nesto od ovoga "ali samo jedan je ghoulov Nekronomikon od 600 strana u tvrdom povezu velikog formata, već na ovogodišnjem Sajmu knjiga."?

[Ghoul]

Video sam danas po knjizarama,da se u prodaji nalazi novo izdanje knjige "Slucaj Carlsa Dekstera Vorda" po cijeni od 800 din.

aj leba ti doznaj (ako već nisi), je li to i NOVI PREVOD, ili onaj isti, po treći put?

[Alexdelarge]

Video sam danas po knjizarama,da se u prodaji nalazi novo izdanje knjige "Slucaj Carlsa Dekstera Vorda" po cijeni od 800 din.

aj leba ti doznaj (ako već nisi), je li to i NOVI PREVOD, ili ono isto, po treći put?

Na sajtu knjizara.com pise da je prevodilac,niko drugi do Velmar-Janković Svetlana

[Ghoul]

pa da, znači ISTI onaj od ranije... koji ostavlja mnogo toga za čežnju!

edit: eee, čekaj malo, ČDV-a je radila GORDANA v-janković, a ne svetlana!

[Alexdelarge]

pa da, znači ISTI onaj od ranije... koji ostavlja mnogo toga za čežnju!

edit: eee, čekaj malo, ČDV-a je radila GORDANA v-janković, a ne svetlana!

Pa, to je ta njihova porodicna zanatska radnja"Velmar Jankovic"...jos samo da se pojavi i neupokojeni duh Vladimira V.Jankovica iz nekog Laguma i eto ti horor price.

[Nyarlathotep]

haha... cisto da malo resurrectujem temu....
danas sam od predobrog gospodina Gerija Hila dobio .pdf izdanje njegove obimne knjige THE STRANGE SOUND OF CTHULHU, gde covek do najstinijih detalja opisuje sve muzicke obrade (teksualno gledano, i ono atmosferski, kompozicijski) Lavkraftovih motiva u mizucu...

sad, necu spoilovati ovde o knjizi, vec cu napisati prikaz za Emitor... ja sam uverend a je knjgia OK, cim je covek istrazujuci materijal uradio intervju sa Justinom Obornom iz epski velikih metal ikona Electric Wizard. Dobro je sto knjiga pokriva "sve" pojave Lavkrafta u muzici od 60tih na ovamo, i to prosarano kroz sve moguce zanrove...

[Kler_Vojant]

Morbid Angel? Nile?

[Nyarlathotep]

da, ali daleko pre njih i Black Sabbath, Hawkwind, i mnoogi drugi.

napr. Electric Wizard, nema benda koji mu se vise klanja. na poslenjem albumu imaju i pesmu DUNWICH... sa mantrom vokala obavijenom zidovima buke, mantrom koja se beskrajno ponavlja i odzvanja:

"The end has become,
Our time has come"

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdW8lt6u4RY

[Ghoul]

evo kako je ovu knjigu o HPL muzici prokomentariso moj prijatelj nidža ALONE / ILEGALNE EMOCIJE, dakle mnogo veći expert za mjuz od mene i s koji mse po ovom pitanju vrlo slažem:

ne znam, meni ova knjiga deluje bezveze. bolje bi bilo da je napisao esej od 5 strana o jednom ozbiljnom i uspesnom muzickom delu koje je inspirisano lovecraftom [ako takvo postoji] nego da je nagomilao preko 200 strana fusnota. mislim, pod gothic pominje cassandra complex... tipican tinejdzerski paljevinski bend koji se lozi na satanizam, crowleya, pa eto i na lovecrafta. ali takvih je bilo... verujem da bi cak i mene stavio u knjigu da je doznao za numeru 'lovecraftwerker'. mislim svaka njemu cast na trudu, mogu misliti koliko je zivaca potrebno da bi se ispratio sav onaj prog rock, ali uzeo je jalovu temu da ozbiljno obraduje.

najlovecraftovskiji naslovi koji mi padaju na pamet su flint glas 'nyarlatothep' [koji mi se i ne svida nesto], drugi album forma tadre [koji je dosta bolji] i sigillums numera from the vault - hpl [sto je najbolje]. zapravo vecina muzike koju sam cuo da citira lovecrafta nema taj njegov vajb, a muzika koja ima njegov vajb nije inspirisana lovecraftom [recimo coil].

[Nyarlathotep]

da, ima tu istine... ali da je covek hteo da napise esej o jednom opskurnom bendu - napisao bi to, ovo je retrospektiva bukvalno svakog osvrta na Lavkrafta u muzici.

ovaj lik se mnogo vise zadrzao u progu, hard roku, metalu... Vitko je stari goth andergraund lik, te kapiram tvoj i njegov goth elitizam, ali mi, narodski ljudi (NIkola Kinovia i ja), smo jos i zadovoljni knjigom, iako je daleko od oga sto bi takva knjiga tebalo da bude.

mada, i to sto kazes...
...onosto odise Lavkraftom uglavnom nema direktne veze sa njima, a ovi sto se direktno busaju na njega su trashy, sem Electric Wizard, naravno. hehe

[Ghoul]

CTHULHU!!!

We can dance like Cthulhu
We can answer to his call
Watch him kick Lady Liberty's head
down the road like a soccer ball
Say, we can dance like Cthulhu
Live it up while the livin's good
Cause once he awakens, the world starts shakin'
and there goes the neighborhood
Say, we can dance, we can dance
Great Old Ones are in control
We can dance, we can dance
Hear them callin' the call
We can dance, we can dance
Terror makes you go in a trance
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's shitting their p-a-a-nts
The Cthulhu Dance
The Cthulhu Dance
The Cthulhu Dance
YEAH!
It's the CTHULHU DANCE!!!

[DušMan]

[Kunac]

CHILL je skinut, i čeka na konzumaciju...

[Tex Murphy]

Woohoohoo!!! Ešli Lorens!!!      Ovo ću da gledam bez obzira što je film sasvim sigurno grozan.

[Ghoul]

'cool air' je jedna od najbanalnijih, najkonvencionalnijih, najslabijih HPL-ovih PALP priča i uopšte me ne čudi što žlj filmmejkeri često posežu za njom.    

a ovaj baja je baš neki žlj nivo, tipična vrsta retarda za blasfemiju još jedne HPL priče!
zabavno je što je efekte maske radio neki Erik Porn (!!!), ali niko iz te ekipe mi nije poznat, što me dodatno čini sumnjičavim. kao i komentari poput: 'The special FX that are used in the ending of the movie would have been a shame in the early 80s, now they're not even funny anymore. The rest of the effects (make-up effects) aren't bad. So the only scene where the effects are really awful is at the very end of the movie.'

a slasherpool kaže: It is what it is, a mediocre DTV flick where a good concept has once again gone completely to waste. It's
occasionally entertaining and if you catch it on TV,
you'll probably end up watching it until the end. It's
just not something I'd want to pay money for. Forgettable movie, but the US editwill hopefully be a whole lot better.

[DušMan]

Realno, dovoljno je pogledati plakat ovog filma i zakljuciti kakav je. Inace nisam obozavatellj teorije "sudi knjigu po koricama", ali ovde je to opravdano ili barem tako deluje.
Ne treba trositi vreme na gledanje ovoga, ali mi je bilo zanimljivo za okaciti na topic.

[Ghoul]

čak i poster je jeftina i ružna krađa beskrajno lepšeg i smelijeg plakata za FLESH FOR FRANKENSTEIN.

naravno, neki lopovi sa ovog foruma bi potpuno podržali takvo što, ali meni je gnusno.

ne mogu da nađem baš verziju na koju mislim, ovo je jedna od njenih varijacija:

[Ghoul]

struart gordon radi (H.P. Lovecraft's) The Thing on the Doorstep.

to je jedna od slabijih HPL priča, ali je tim veća šansa da film NE bude slab!

Today we were informed that casting is officially underway with the intent on shooting April 14th with the adaptation written by Dennis Paoli. In addition, we've scored the official synopsis (being used now) and full casting breakdown for the film, which can all be found inside. Beware of spoilers.

The Thing on the Doorstep
SYNOPSIS: Psychiatrist EDWARD DERBY becomes obsessed with the beautiful, terrified ASENATH WAITE, who claims that her father EPHRAIM is trying to take over her body with his mind. Despite causing considerable heartache to his devoted wife KATIE, Edward winds up having a sexual liaison with Asenath, which triggers the transfer of Ephriam's soul from Asenath's body to his own. Aware that he's descending into madness but powerless to stop it, Edward consults his best friend, fellow shrink DANIEL MEYER, who fails to believe Edward's story until it's too late.

[Bab Jaga]

Sad sam dobila s Amazona Graphic Classics: H.P. Lovecraft. Sadrži stripove A Memory (ill. by Gerry Alanguilan), The Shadow Over Innsmouth (Simon Gane), Dreams in the Witch-House (Pedro Lopez), Sweet Ermengarde (Kevin Atkinson), Herbert West: Reanimator (Richard Corben, Rick Geary, J.B. Boniverti, Mark A. Nelson), The Cats of Ultar (Lisa K. Weber), The Terrible Old Man (Onsmith Jeremi) i The Shadov Out of Time (Matt Howarth).

[PericaA]

Veliki pozdrav svim clanovima foruma.

Zelio bi samo da podelim jednu informaciju sa vama. Uskoro izlazi knjiga KTULU PRICE - Lafkraft. Sasvim slucajno sam pravio koricu  za knjigu, pa pouzdano znam da ce izaci za koji mesec.

POZZZZ

[Ghoul]

KTULU PRICE - Lafkraft.

nadam se da na korici ipak ne piše - Lafkraft?!

[PericaA]

nisam bas najbolje razumeo pitanje

[PericaA]

svakako   , to sam prekopirao sa poruke koja se nalazi na ovom forumu

[Ghoul]

hehe, upravo mi reče moj prijatelj s. popivoda, da za najkasnije 30-40ak dana izlazi NEKRONOMIKON.
ali ne ovaj fantomski bobanov, nego PRAVI – by john dee, a možda i još neka verzija (pošto tih kvazi-nekronomikona ima bar 3-4 komada, ako ne i više).

dakle, kao što rekoh, 2008. ĆE BITI GODINA VELIKIH PREVRATA I RASPLETA, što signališe i pojačano interesovanje za lavkrafta i sve što je vezano za njega!!!

[Boban]

Ja sam u nekom trenutku shvatio da se horor previše razmahao i da ga treba sputati.
S tim u vezi smislio sam najstrašniju moguću psinu: na naslovnu stranu NEKRONOMIKONA dodajem "SF pripovetke". I dodajem na kraju knjige popis SF motiva koje je koristio Lavkraft.

[Ghoul]

samo izvoli, ali onda ne očekuj da na bilo koji način učestvujem u promociji takvog izdanja.

[WARLOCK]

Za Ghoula.. jedan umetnik veliki obozavalac Lavkrafta  uradio je mnoogo sklulptura

[Ghoul]

odličan je ovaj insmućanin; ktulu je previše slepački oslonjen na tu HPL-ovu skicu, koja zaista ne valja.
ipak, lepo izrađeno: hvala što si ovo okačio!

[WARLOCK]

nema na cemu dodje mi da napravim neku slicnu skulpturu

[Ghoul]

JEDAN OD MOJIH OMILJENIH BENDOVA NAJAVLJUJE:

Hot news for you today.

Forma Tadre is going to release a brand new album - The Music of Erich Zann - early this year on iTunes. Pre-listen to tracks taken from
the forthcoming album now on our myspace profile page.

Lots more news on that very, soon... so watch this space.

www.formatadre.com
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SSSSSUUUUUUPPPPEEEEEEEEEER!!!
   

[Ghoul]

http://www.wyrdstuff.com/lovecraft/

[Ghoul]

jos jedno skrnavljenje u pripremi

Jeffrey Combs, will be heading toward H.P. Lovecraft territory once again to begin work on THE DARKEST EVIL, which will be an adaptation of Lovecraft's THE DUNWICH HORROR.

Combs has appeared in a bunch of loosely adapted Lovecraft flicks, from the immortal RE-ANIMATOR and its sequels, to the wacky FROM BEYOND.

THE DARKEST EVIL will tell the tale of Wilbur Whateley, who wishes to use the Necronomican (that old thing...) to unleash evil upon mankind.

The film will also star Dean Stockwell, Griff Furst and Sarah Lieving. It'll be directed by Leigh Scott, who has some wonderful credits like HILLSIDE CANNIBALS and TRANSMORPHERS. If you guessed that he used to work for Asylum, specializers in quick, cheap ripoffs, you were right. This is supposedly going to have a limited theatrical release this fall, so keep your eyes peeled for more info!

[Ghoul]

slušam album Tribute To H.P.Lovecraft, i moram reći da je ovo PRVI od gomile slično-tematskih koji zapravo ZAISTA ZVUČI U SKLADU SA HPL DUHOM kako ga ja poimam - to je zaista TO!

dakle, brutalno mračni dark-ambient, pa ko voli...  

[The Thing]

Znam da sam već negde video ovu ilustraciju

http://www.waynebarlowe.com/

[Ghoul]

evo jednog intervjua u kome izvesni 'expert' za lavkrafta govori o HPL-ovoj vezi sa ezoterijom i okultizmom, te o svom boravku u providensu i drugim okultno-hororičnim temama:

Dejan Ognjanović – Lavkraft je bio skeptičan prema okultizmu!
http://www.prosvetljenje.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=97&Itemid=27

a kad ste već tamo, razgledajte i ostatak sajta, naročito ako vas zanima ezoterija (+ njene obrade u muzici, literaturi itd.)

http://www.prosvetljenje.net/

[Father Jape]

Ovaj, samo da pitam Ghoula - koje su ti pet omiljenih Lavkraftovih prica?  

[Ghoul]

Ovaj, samo da pitam Ghoula - koje su ti pet omiljenih Lavkraftovih prica?  

ovim redom:
1. kratki roman U planinama ludila (At the Mountains of Madness, 1931)
2. "Boja izvan ovog svemira" (The Colour Out of Space, 1927)
3. "Ktuluov zov" (The Call of Cthulhu, 1926)
4. "Senka nad Insmutom" (The Shadow Over Innsmouth, 1931)
5. "Pacovi u zidovima" (The Rats in the Walls, 1923)

ako ti se ne sviđa što sam kratki roman stavio umesto priče, evo i 2 honorable mentiona:
"Srebrni ključ" (The Silver Key, 1926) i Muzika Erika Zana (The Music of Erich Zann, 1921)

[Boban]

Ghoule, lektorka za Nekronomikon je tajanstvaeno nestala i već deset dana je nigde nema, niti kod kuće niti na poslu.
Ajde reci šta si uradio s devojkom...

[Ghoul]

ja?
ništa!

ali moram da zapazim da ljudi koji rade za tebe imaju neobičnu sklonost prema alkoholizmu, suicidalnom ponašanju, depresiji, i još crnjim oblicima devijacija.
neki (mudriji) na vreme daju ostavku, neki prosto odu bez ostani zbogom, a neki... nestanu.

fill in the blank...

[Father Jape]

@Ghoul - blagodarim.  

[Alexdelarge]

Ghoule, lektorka za Nekronomikon je tajanstvaeno nestala i već deset dana je nigde nema, niti kod kuće niti na poslu.
Ajde reci šta si uradio s devojkom...

Je l' nam to na suptilan nacin govoris da ce opet biti odlaganja izlaska Necronomicona?  

[Bab Jaga]

Ghoule, lektorka za Nekronomikon je tajanstvaeno nestala i već deset dana je nigde nema, niti kod kuće niti na poslu.

Tako to bude kad ideš čeprkati po Necronomiconu...  

[Boban]

Uspeo sam da se probijem do devojke koja radi redakturu. Na rubu očaja je, izgubila je telefon i dešavajuju joj se samo neprijatne stvari ovih dana.
Ghoule, budi dobar...

[Ghoul]

Ghoule, budi dobar...

show me how!