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Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

From the Match 23 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

Beck je leceni alkos koji je mozak skroz spalio alkoholom i drogama. To sto izlazi iz njegovih usta su energetska praznjenja spaljenih sinapsi.

Quote from: zagor te nej on March 31, 2010, 01:25:36 PM
Beck je leceni alkos koji je mozak skroz spalio alkoholom i drogama. To sto izlazi iz njegovih usta su energetska praznjenja spaljenih sinapsi.

...a sta su njegovi verni gledatelji?  Ti mora da su jos gori od njega i gluplji ....tejlesi???

Quote from: vbo man on March 31, 2010, 03:22:10 AM

Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

sta kaze Zika Obretkovic po ovom pitanju? Missim kada vec povlacimo big guns.

Zagore: to sto Beck radi nema veze sa alkoholizmom. Tip je djubre, vrlo verovatno oportunista i dripac. A to sto radi radi jako dobro.

Nije on bas savim normalan. Ne moze normalan copvek da se zaplche deset puta dnevno pred kamerom. Al' pazi zapleta, tip je mormon-alkoholicar.

Quote from: zagor te nej on March 31, 2010, 02:33:45 PM
Nije on bas savim normalan. Ne moze normalan copvek da se zaplche deset puta dnevno pred kamerom. Al' pazi zapleta, tip je mormon-alkoholicar.

dobar glumac moze da place na 'que' a drzim da je Beck dobar glumac.

So fckn what ako je ex-alkoholicar? To ti nije bas pristojan argument. Ako se ne slazes sa njegovim misljenjem, stilom, kazi tako, a ne djonom.

Svakom mozes da iskopas dirt in the past, ali to je vrlo ruzna praksa diskvalifikacije.

Sto so fcking what? Znaci da je slab, neuracunljiv, unreliable. 

 :roll:

Svi ti leceni alkosi i narkomani su najveci bible salesmani na svetu. Otkrio Hesusa, spasao ga od flase, bullshit like that.
Da je bio normalan to begin with, ne bi se cepao kilachom whiskey-a dnevno...I sad ja treba da slusam sta jedna nakrivo nasadjena budala ima da kaze o politici? Please.

Kako hoces. Meni te argumentacije bazirane na necijoj proslosti nista ne znace. Ako ti se neko ne svidja, objasni mi sta tacno ne valja a ne od cega se lecio, ili sta je radio pre 20 god. Bar u mom rasudjivanju, ja tako razmisljam:

Don't inquire into a person's past. Take the measure of a man for what he is today.

PS. Obama je takodje probao svakakve droge, prema licnom priznanju u svojim "auto-" hagiografijama, pa  ga opet ne smatram narkomanom.

Pa ja sam prvo bip apsolutno zgrozen bujicom besmislica koja mu izlazi iz usta, i ponasanjem ove individue, pa sam onda procitao kojesta o njemu, i meni je sasvim logicno da je danasnji Beck posledica Becka u proteklih 25-30 godina. Becka koji se, po sopstvenom priznanju nije razabirao od kojecega decenijama. I mislim da je prosto ponizavajuce uzimati za ozbiljno jednu takvu budalu.

u pravu ste svi....ima dosta pristojnog sveta koji su nekad bili alkosi pa su odustali i zive normalan zivot...a ima i masu tih ponovorodjenih bolesnika koji su sad vece pape nad papama. Ne moze se generalizovati. Ovaj je teski psihopata, kao i onaj drugi, kako se zove... Rush Limbaugh. I to su ljudi koji su ovde medju najpopularnijim tv licnostima. Tells a lot about the society and its values  :(

Rush nije psihopata, one je businessman, nasao ekipu koju moze da lozi po ceo dan, otkida se od para, ja sam licno ubedjen da on ne veruje u recimo pola onoga sto kaze.
A ja se ovih born again krshcana koi su to postali jer nisu mogli da istanu iz kreveta bez litre Sky-ja plasim. Zapadni talibani.

Negde sam nedavno video definiciju te "publike": mouth-breathing Bible-beaters.

Quote from: zagor te nej on March 31, 2010, 03:46:09 PM
Rush nije psihopata, one je businessman, nasao ekipu koju moze da lozi po ceo dan, otkida se od para, ja sam licno ubedjen da on ne veruje u recimo pola onoga sto kaze.
A ja se ovih born again krshcana koi su to postali jer nisu mogli da istanu iz kreveta bez litre Sky-ja plasim. Zapadni talibani.

pa treba biti psihopata da bi se od takvog lozenja napravio biznis. Za zapadne talibane si sasvim u pravu. S tim sto su ti talibanci part and parcel ovog drustva od samog pocetka.

Ne, to se zove sociopata. Ima ih dosta i u investment bankingu itd.

Ma jok, treba biti oportunista, nikakve to veze sa sociopatijom nema.

Izvini, ali znam nekoliko sociopata u ovom biznisu.

Ja pricam o Rushu...

I on je sociopata. Svako ko lozi majmune radi personalnog ili probitka neke grupe je sociopata.

Da li je Keith Olberman sociopata? Bill Mahr? Chris Matthews?

Quote from: zagor te nej on March 31, 2010, 03:26:58 PM
Svi ti leceni alkosi i narkomani su najveci bible salesmani na svetu. Otkrio Hesusa, spasao ga od flase, bullshit like that.
Da je bio normalan to begin with, ne bi se cepao kilachom whiskey-a dnevno...I sad ja treba da slusam sta jedna nakrivo nasadjena budala ima da kaze o politici? Please.

Hang on.
Jel on leceni alkos ili jos uvek alkos?

Naravno da su najveci bible salesmani - nije li to logicno? Sve te navlakuse (addictions) su mahom nekakav nedostatak necega u zivotu, covek se pogubi u vremenu i prostoru. Za izbavljanje odatle je potrebno promeniti nesto, bukvalno postati drugi covek.

Isus leci od flase fantasticno...

I na kraju, neko je vec rekao, x-alkos je BIO alkos, sada vise nije. Aj' da vidim tebe golube, deder se navuci na neke maligane pa mi kazi lako li je da se skines.

A sto bi to uradio?
Normalan covek zna za meru u zivotu. Pogledaj Beckov show, ti vidis da on jednostavno ne zna sta je mera u bilo cemu.

Znate sta mene izbacuje iz takta? Oni ludaci sto stoje po coskovima ili po ionako crowded prolazima i drugim nabudzenim prostorima mass transita sa onim "Watchtower" svescicama koje pokusavaju da ti utrape. Stoje kao svece po ceo dan tako, ponekad ne mogu da ih obidjem ili - kao u poslednja 2-3 jebena dana - po kishi mi se unose u facu pa moram da pokisnem da bih obisao te majmune.

kako bih slatko isutirao tu ekipu.

Beck je izlecen. Takodje, on je TV persona, naravno da je dramoser. Njima smeta konzervativna poruka, a stil i background je samo izgovor.


Ja sam imao kolegu u Illinoisu koji je bio ono sto Zagor naziva 'born again', tip koji je nekad sve sto nevalja, buntovnik, alkoholicar, verovatno i na drogama, duga kosa, Harley i te radnje, i onda se covek ozenio, izlecio nasao crkvu i promenio se. Potpuno se promenio.   Bio je izuzento tih, smiren, pun razumevanja, zainteresovan za mene imigranta/moju kulturu odakle sam, i sve ukupno dobar kolega.  Citao bibliju na pauzama, isao u fitness center na pauzi za rucak.

Jednom prilikm mi je ucinio neku uslugu i ja mu rekoh kako da ti se zahvalim; on je malo razmislio i rekao, da jednom odem sa njim u njegovu crkvu. Ja odugovlacio nekoliko meseci i jednog vikenda, 'ajde nema vise smisla da izbegavam, nemam vise izgovora i odem sa njim. Bilo je divno, lepo, ljudi pristojni, sve poruke primerne, bilo svega i smeha i suza, pesme, molitve, ljudi to vole.

Sa tom osobom i njegovom porodicom sam i danas nakon 5 godina odlaska iz IL u dobrom kontaktu. Divni ljudi, u svakom pogledu.


I sad mi Zagor kaze da su ex-alcoholic bible-salesmen najgori ljudi koji su ikad hodali na zemlji? Ma hajde.

Pa dobro, ako ti mozes da gledas show coveka koji mrtav ozbiljan tvrdi da FEMA priprema koncentracione kampove za politicko prevaspitavanje, be my guest.  :o Ja sam recimo ubedjen da iko ko tako nesto moze da tvrdi jednostavno nije zdrav. But let's agree to disagree, izgleda da je to najdalje sto cemo da postignemo ovde.

Moj klinac ima prijatelja iz religiozne porodice. Fini ljudi, i jednom odemo u njihovu crkvu jer im je sin igrao u nekoj predstavi, pa nas hteo da vidi. Bogte, kao da sam usao u Hondin dealership. Svi te salecu, pozdravljaju, kezovi....
Nisu ljudi losi, ali nije to za mene. A za bible salesmane - ako bi pustili da im dete umre jer mu ne daju transfuziju, to su za mene losi ljudi. Ne zanimaju me njihovi motivi, shvatanja itd vec samo ponasanje.

Quote from: Tromotorac on March 31, 2010, 06:19:27 PM



I sad mi Zagor kaze da su ex-alcoholic bible-salesmen najgori ljudi koji su ikad hodali na zemlji? Ma hajde.

Ja ne kazem da su najgori, ja ti kazem da se takvih klanjam, od sveta u kom ti ljudi zive me jeza hvata. Taj tvoj je mozda najfiniji covek na svetu, nemam  pojma, sto ti ne bih verovao. Ali, najiskrenije, cim neko kaze da je born again ja se okrenem i idem svojim poslom. Imao sam prilike da vidim transformaciju nekoga u to, pa to je zastrasucuje. Sa sve home schoolingom dece itd.

Dobro, nisam slusao Becka skorije pa nisam znao za to sa FEMA-om. To mu je malo preterano, ako ista FEMA planira u tom pravcu to je verovatno za kontaminaciju/outbreak contamination. 
Njegove emisije sam gledao pre par meseci, gde je prikazivao ljude koje je Obama postavio za "careve" i tu nije uopste gresio. Obama je politicki odrastao medju socijalistima/kripto-komunistima, i tu nema sta da se laze. Beck je bio prvi koji je poceo da prica o tome - i otud mrznja prema njemu.

Kad se neki glumac ili sportista vrati iz drug-rehab, obicno ga kuju u zvezde. Koliko je Robert Downey Jr. imao relapses, pa nista i dalje je rado vidjen gost na TV. Beck je omrzen zbog njegovog konzervativnog stava, ne zbog drugog.

Elem...

Ja sam otprilike kao Pijanista. Lepo, svaka cast onima koji to vole, ali takav zivot nije za nas. Isto, ako odu u ekstrem i izbegavaju medicinu, onda je to zlo.

Nego, on a more important note, TV je super :)

 :!: :|

Pre oko godinu dana dobila sam koleginicu koja je jedna od tih born again. Mada dosta saradjujemo, nisam imala pojma. Znala sam samo da je veoma, veoma religiozna. Redovni, dvonedeljni odlasci u crkvu, nonstop citanje Biblije, ne gledanje televizije, i uglavnom kontakti i komunikacije (van posla) samo i iskljucivo sa ljudima kao sto je ona. Mi uglavnom pricamo o prosveti, nastavi, deci, djacima, studentima.... Nisam imala pojma da je novorodjena, dok mi njena prijateljica to nije spomenula.

Ta zena je jedna od najlepsih (ne estetski, mada jeste i tako lepa) osoba koje sam u zivotu srela. Mila, prijatna, posvecena deci (radi sa decom vise od 25 godina), neverovatno nesto...

Prva religiozna osoba koju sam srela i koja zivi onako kako bi, koliko ja znam, prava hriscanka zivela. Po prvi put u zivotu sam pomislila da biti hriscanin i dobra osoba nisu contradictio in terminis.

Zemljo otvori se....

QuoteThe Washington Monthly

    QUOTE OF THE DAY.... A 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll released the other day found that 50% of respondents would be willing to support an openly-gay presidential candidate. The Family Research Council, a prominent religious right group with ties to the Republican leadership, suggested yesterday that President Obama may effectively (not literally) already be "our first gay president." (via Right Wing Watch)

        f it was argued during his two terms in office that Bill Clinton was "our first black President" because of his supposed liberal policies that would benefit African-Americans (though I'm not quite sure what President Clinton did, that he wasn't forced to do, that would benefit any minority except for Chinese monks with political donations to spend.) With that argument shouldn't Barack Obama already be our "first gay President" due to his liberal policies pushing the homosexual agenda?

    The Family Research Council isn't saying President Obama is gay; it's saying President Obama might as well be considered gay, the same way Bill Clinton was considered black.

    And the religious right wonders why it's so hard to take their movement seriously.

Mark Steyn
April 3, 2010 12:00 A.M.
Parochially Post-American

It wasn't the "reset" button President Obama hit; it was the ejector-seat button.

 

Hillary Clinton, America's secretary of state, was in Canada last week. She criticized Ottawa for not inviting aboriginal groups to a meeting on the Arctic, and for not including the facilitation of abortion in the Canadian government's "maternal health" initiative to developing countries. These might seem curious priorities for the global superpower at a time of war, but, with such a full plate over at the State Department, it's no wonder that peripheral matters like Iranian nuclear deadlines seem to fall by the wayside.

Stephen Harper, prime minister of Canada, took U.S. criticisms in his stride. "Whether it comes to our role in Afghanistan, our sovereignty over our Arctic, or ultimately our foreign aid priorities, it is Canada and Canadians who will make Canadian decisions," he said. Judging from the chill in the room at his and the secretary of state's joint photo-op, the Canadian Arctic now extends pretty much to the U.S. border.

The Obama administration came into office promising to press the "reset" button with the rest of the world after eight years of the so-called arrogant, swaggering Texan cowboy blundering his way around the planet offending peoples from many lands. Instead, Obama pressed the ejector-seat button: Brits, Czechs, Israelis, Indians found themselves given the brush. I gather the Queen was "amused" by the president's thoughtful gift of an iPod preloaded with Obama speeches — and, fortunately for Her Majesty, the 160GB model only has storage capacity for two of them, or three if you include one of his shorter perorations. But Gordon Brown would like to be liked by Barack Obama, and can't understand why he isn't.

There is much speculation on the "root cause" of presidential antipathy to America's formerly closest ally. It is said his grandfather was ill treated by the authorities in colonial Kenya in the 1940s, which seems as good a basis as any on which to reorder 21st century bilateral relations, or at any rate as good as the proportion of the Canadian overseas-aid budget devoted to abortion promotion. But I doubt insensitive British policing two-thirds of a century ago weighs that heavy on the president. After all, his brother back in Kenya lives on twelve bucks a year, and that doesn't seem to bother him, so it's hard to see why ancient slights to his grandfather would — except insofar as they confirm the general biases of his collegiate-Left worldview.

In that sense, those who argue that, having been born in Hawaii and been at grade school in Indonesia, he lacks the instinctive Atlanticism of his predecessors are missing the point. Yes, he has no instinctive Atlanticism. But that's not because of a childhood spent in the Pacific but because of an adulthood spent among the campus Left from Bill Ayers to Van Jones, not to mention Jeremiah Wright. That also conveniently explains not just the anti-Atlanticism but the anti-Zionism, at least until the scholars uncover some sinister Jewish banker in Nairobi who seized the family home after the braying Brit-imperialist toff tossed Grampa Obama behind bars. Perhaps a singing Mountie yodeling selections from Rose-Marie beneath his jailhouse window all night explains the president's revulsion to Canadian Arctic policy. Perhaps the Gujarati fakir sharing his cell and keeping Grampa up all night with his snake charming accounts for Obama's 18-month cold shoulder to India. And you can hardly blame him postponing his trip to Australia given the lingering resentments after Grampa was bitten by a rabid wombat down by the billabong who then ran off with his didgeridoo.

Fascinating as these psychological speculations are, we may be overthinking the situation. It's not just the president. The entire administration suffers, to put it at its mildest, from systemic indifference to American allies. It wasn't Obama but a mere aide who sneered to Fleet Street reporters that Britain was merely one of 200 countries in the world and shouldn't expect any better treatment than any of the others. It wasn't Obama but the State Department that leaked Hillary Clinton's dressing down of Prime Minister Netanyahu. Ally-belittling comes so reflexively to this administration that it's now doing drive-by bird-flipping. I doubt Secretary Clinton intended to change American policy when she was down in Argentina the other day and out of the blue demanded negotiations on the Falkland Islands. I would imagine she is entirely ignorant and indifferent on the subject, and calling for negotiations seemed the easy option — works for Iran and North Korea, right?

As to Canadian funding of Third World abortion, the secretary of state was simply defaulting to her own tropes: If she sounds more like the chair of Planned Parenthood than the principal spokesman for American foreign policy, well, hasn't she always? In a 2003 autobiography almost as long and as unreadable as the health-care bill, she offered little on world affairs other than the following insights: France's Bernadette Chirac is "an elegant, cultured woman." Nicaragua's Violeta Chamorro is "an elegant, striking woman." Pakistan's Benazir Bhutto is "a brilliant and striking woman." Canada's Aline Chrétien is "intelligent, sharply observant and elegant." But Russia's Naina Yeltsin is merely "personable and articulate." Alas, since taking office, the Obama administration hasn't found Gordon Brown, Stephen Harper, Binyamin Netanyahu, Nicolas Sarkozy, Václav Klaus, or Manmohan Singh the least bit elegant, cultured, striking, elegant, brilliant, elegant, striking, elegant, sharply observant, elegant, or even personable and articulate.

One of the oddest features of the scene is attributed to the president's "cool," which seems to be the euphemism of choice for what, in less stellar executives, would be regarded as an unappealing combination of coldness and self-absorption. I forget which long-ago foreign minister responded to an invitation to lunch with an adversary by saying "I'm not hungry," but Obama seems to reserve the line for his "friends." Visiting France, he declined to dine with the Sarkozys. Visiting Norway, he declined to dine with the king at a banquet thrown explicitly in Obama's honor. The other day, the president declined to dine with Netanyahu even though the Israeli prime minister was his guest in the White House at the time. The British prime minister, five times rebuffed in his attempt to book a date, had to make do with a perfunctory walk 'n' talk through the kitchens of the U.N. Obama's shtick as a candidate was that he was the guy who'd talk to anyone, anytime, anywhere. Instead, he recoils from all but the most minimal contact with the world.

John Bolton calls him "the first post-American president" and is punctilious enough to add that he doesn't mean "un-American" or "anti-American." In his Berlin speech, he presented himself as a "citizen of the world," which, whatever else it means, suggests an indifference to America's role as guarantor of the global order. The postponement of his Australian trip in order to ram health care down the throats of the American people was a neat distillation of the reality of his priorities: A transformative domestic agenda must necessarily come at the price of America's global role. One-worldism is often a convenient cover for ignorance: You'd be hard pressed to find a self-proclaimed "multiculturalist" who can tell you the capital of Lesotho or the principal exports of Bhutan. And so it is with liberal internationalism: The citoyen du monde is the most parochial president of modern times.

— Mark Steyn, a National Review columnist, is author of America Alone. © 2010 Mark Steyn.

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/04/14/logo-for-obamas-nuclear-security-summit-looks-oddly-familiar/

Pijanisto mozes li da smanjis sliku ili da stavis samo link, sjebo si mi ceo ekran.

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 15, 2010, 12:12:56 AM
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/04/14/logo-for-obamas-nuclear-security-summit-looks-oddly-familiar/

u jebote koji argumenti - GET nemoj reci da se palis na ovakve stvari?
mora da je Obama sam radio taj logo ili je bio pitan kako ce logo da ispadne...nema pametnija posla do da salje sumbliminalne poruke. obaska sto je svakom ko ima vise od par razreda osnovne jasno da je u pitanju elektron koji orbitira oko protona.

Nego, evo da sam ja musliman, prvo sto me ovo NE bi navelo na pomisao da mi se titraju jajca te da lici na MOJU zastavu, a drugo cak i da mi lici na zastavu bas bi me bolelo - ne bi tome pridavao nikakvog znacaja. Eno mi visi prava zastava a za ove tzv. 'poruke' bi me bas bolelo jer niti su nedvosmislene niti ista time pokazuju, dokazuju, meni licno nude...

Znas kako Alane, ti ovo gledas kao inzinjer, i kao delimicno simpatizer.

Ja ovo posmatram kroz communication theory - medium is the message. Amblem ima intrinsic message. Ovi Obamini amblemi se drasticno razlikuju od bilo cega drugog u istoriji US heraldike. Sve ima svoju poruku, makar subliminal / subconscous / state of the mind.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/15/stewart-hammers-fox-news_n_538584.html

Kralj...

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 15, 2010, 06:28:46 PM
Znas kako Alane, ti ovo gledas kao inzinjer, i kao delimicno simpatizer.

ja verujem da ti ovo posmatras sa dozom pristrasnosti pa ti sve lici na prevaru. Razmisli kada si u zivotu video neki znak, logo nesto slicno negde koji je na jedan potpuno skriven nacin nesto tebi licno trebao da znaci? Imas li primera? Da li se palis na te subliminalne poruke upucene tebi? U stvari jos bolje pitanje je ima li ih?

Jon Stewart je lek za kretene sa Foxa.

Quote from: alan ford on April 15, 2010, 04:31:15 PM

obaska sto je svakom ko ima vise od par razreda osnovne jasno da je u pitanju elektron koji orbitira oko protona.

Мени није.

Особито стога што се и данас, мислим, као и у време кад сам ја ишао у школу сматра да само атом водоника, који се у природи никада не налази у атомском облику, има један електрон који је "размазан" по својој орбити чинећи тако електронску љуску...

Да си рекао Месец, па 'ајде....

Hahaha, vidi se da si citao "Galaksiju": taj termin "razmazan" je bio u jednom od prevedenih tekstova iz zapadnih popular science magazina koje je "Galaksija" mahom i donosila (neki broj iz ranih 80-tih) a gde je tema bila upravo kvantna (hromo)dinamika.

Pocetkom septembra 1987., u prvom razredu elektrotehnicke skole, na jednom od prvih casova (obicno je bio dvocas) Osnova Elektrotehnike sa Elektricnim Merenjima nastavnik upravo objasnjava onako za decu orbite elektrona i pita razred a ja mu kazem: "Nije tacno; putanja elektrona uopste nije putanja nego je razmazana, tj. postoji oblak verovatnoce da ce on u nekom trenutku negde biti".

On spustio ruke po strani i gleda me. :mrgreen:

Posle prve dve godine nam je bio i razredni a predavao nam je kasnije i 2-3 strucna predmeta (Elektricne masine sa ogledima, Elektricna pokretanja, Automatsko upravljanje elektromotornim pogonima) i bio sam mu jedan od najboljih; ajd sto me je gotivio (zapravo me je zagotivio tek u 2. razredu kada sam razvaljivao Osnove Elektrotehnike II, Elektricna/Merenja u Energetici) nego mi to stvarno islo.

But I digress...

Заправо сам у 2. разреду средње био математички смер (то је било као неко предусмерење) и то из сасвим бизарног разлога: после првог разреда, на упису у други, од четири смера (природно-научни, језички, математички и још неки богапитај како се звао) само испред тог шалтера није било никог да чека за предају докумената, док су пред остала три били километарски редови. Наравно, ко ће да чека и тако....
Занимљиво је да сам само ја, једна несрећница која је "тајно" била смртно заљубљена у мене још од другог основне и свуда ме у стопу пратила па шта кошта да кошта и још троје деце намерно уписали овај смер; остатак до два'ес пет-шест ђака у одељењу попуњен је поновцима и онима који су полагали математику или физику у августу. Посерем се на Србију и у то име.
Можеш да замислиш одушевљење код професора кад су их угледали.

Међу таквим дијаболама није био никакав проблем просперирати у смислу да нисам морао ни у школу да идем, а да опет будем одликаш. Наравно, цена коју сам за такво школовање платио била је огромна.

zanimljiva su mi ova tumacenja logo-a i iz jednog drugog ugla; ugla u kome da bi ljudski mozak nesto shvatio te znao kako da kategorizuje kako bi ga smestio u odgovarajucu 'fijoku'. Citao sam nedavno kako mozak tesko shvata 'randomness' (kako se to kaze srpski - nasumicnost?) i haoticnost te da u svemu pronalazi nekakvu logiku, red i niz i na taj nacin ga tumaci i shvata. Naravno sve te tako date karakteristike su krajnje netacne ali su neophodne.

Tako nekako je verujem i sa logo, ali ne samo logom vec i mnogo cime vezano i ne vezano za Obamu. U konkretnom slucaju postoji potreba da nesto nekako povezemo sa necime, u ovom slucaju to'necime' je Obamina naklonjenost muslimanima, neposedovanje krstenice, nepatriotizam. A kreacija logo-a je verujem potpuno 'nasumican' dogadjaj kome Obama nije prisustvovao, niti na ikoji nacin doprineo.

Možda je autor pravio logo tako da se naročito dopadne precedniku?

u to ne sumnjam. taj tim grafickih dizajnera sto je radio logo sigurno ima sefa, koji opet ima sefa koji verovatno ima pristup Obami i svima je u cilju da impresioniraju sefa.
U kom slucaju bi onda ovo bila zavera sirih razmera.

:mrgreen:

Quote from: Tromotorac on April 05, 2010, 06:49:19 PM
Mark Steyn
April 3, 2010 12:00 A.M.
Parochially Post-American

It wasn't the "reset" button President Obama hit; it was the ejector-seat button.

 

Hillary Clinton, America's secretary of state, was in Canada last week. She criticized Ottawa for not inviting aboriginal groups to a meeting on the Arctic, and for not including the facilitation of abortion in the Canadian government's "maternal health" initiative to developing countries. These might seem curious priorities for the global superpower at a time of war, but, with such a full plate over at the State Department, it's no wonder that peripheral matters like Iranian nuclear deadlines seem to fall by the wayside.

Stephen Harper, prime minister of Canada, took U.S. criticisms in his stride. "Whether it comes to our role in Afghanistan, our sovereignty over our Arctic, or ultimately our foreign aid priorities, it is Canada and Canadians who will make Canadian decisions," he said. Judging from the chill in the room at his and the secretary of state's joint photo-op, the Canadian Arctic now extends pretty much to the U.S. border.

The Obama administration came into office promising to press the "reset" button with the rest of the world after eight years of the so-called arrogant, swaggering Texan cowboy blundering his way around the planet offending peoples from many lands. Instead, Obama pressed the ejector-seat button: Brits, Czechs, Israelis, Indians found themselves given the brush. I gather the Queen was "amused" by the president's thoughtful gift of an iPod preloaded with Obama speeches — and, fortunately for Her Majesty, the 160GB model only has storage capacity for two of them, or three if you include one of his shorter perorations. But Gordon Brown would like to be liked by Barack Obama, and can't understand why he isn't.

There is much speculation on the "root cause" of presidential antipathy to America's formerly closest ally. It is said his grandfather was ill treated by the authorities in colonial Kenya in the 1940s, which seems as good a basis as any on which to reorder 21st century bilateral relations, or at any rate as good as the proportion of the Canadian overseas-aid budget devoted to abortion promotion. But I doubt insensitive British policing two-thirds of a century ago weighs that heavy on the president. After all, his brother back in Kenya lives on twelve bucks a year, and that doesn't seem to bother him, so it's hard to see why ancient slights to his grandfather would — except insofar as they confirm the general biases of his collegiate-Left worldview.

In that sense, those who argue that, having been born in Hawaii and been at grade school in Indonesia, he lacks the instinctive Atlanticism of his predecessors are missing the point. Yes, he has no instinctive Atlanticism. But that's not because of a childhood spent in the Pacific but because of an adulthood spent among the campus Left from Bill Ayers to Van Jones, not to mention Jeremiah Wright. That also conveniently explains not just the anti-Atlanticism but the anti-Zionism, at least until the scholars uncover some sinister Jewish banker in Nairobi who seized the family home after the braying Brit-imperialist toff tossed Grampa Obama behind bars. Perhaps a singing Mountie yodeling selections from Rose-Marie beneath his jailhouse window all night explains the president's revulsion to Canadian Arctic policy. Perhaps the Gujarati fakir sharing his cell and keeping Grampa up all night with his snake charming accounts for Obama's 18-month cold shoulder to India. And you can hardly blame him postponing his trip to Australia given the lingering resentments after Grampa was bitten by a rabid wombat down by the billabong who then ran off with his didgeridoo.

Fascinating as these psychological speculations are, we may be overthinking the situation. It's not just the president. The entire administration suffers, to put it at its mildest, from systemic indifference to American allies. It wasn't Obama but a mere aide who sneered to Fleet Street reporters that Britain was merely one of 200 countries in the world and shouldn't expect any better treatment than any of the others. It wasn't Obama but the State Department that leaked Hillary Clinton's dressing down of Prime Minister Netanyahu. Ally-belittling comes so reflexively to this administration that it's now doing drive-by bird-flipping. I doubt Secretary Clinton intended to change American policy when she was down in Argentina the other day and out of the blue demanded negotiations on the Falkland Islands. I would imagine she is entirely ignorant and indifferent on the subject, and calling for negotiations seemed the easy option — works for Iran and North Korea, right?

As to Canadian funding of Third World abortion, the secretary of state was simply defaulting to her own tropes: If she sounds more like the chair of Planned Parenthood than the principal spokesman for American foreign policy, well, hasn't she always? In a 2003 autobiography almost as long and as unreadable as the health-care bill, she offered little on world affairs other than the following insights: France's Bernadette Chirac is "an elegant, cultured woman." Nicaragua's Violeta Chamorro is "an elegant, striking woman." Pakistan's Benazir Bhutto is "a brilliant and striking woman." Canada's Aline Chrétien is "intelligent, sharply observant and elegant." But Russia's Naina Yeltsin is merely "personable and articulate." Alas, since taking office, the Obama administration hasn't found Gordon Brown, Stephen Harper, Binyamin Netanyahu, Nicolas Sarkozy, Václav Klaus, or Manmohan Singh the least bit elegant, cultured, striking, elegant, brilliant, elegant, striking, elegant, sharply observant, elegant, or even personable and articulate.

One of the oddest features of the scene is attributed to the president's "cool," which seems to be the euphemism of choice for what, in less stellar executives, would be regarded as an unappealing combination of coldness and self-absorption. I forget which long-ago foreign minister responded to an invitation to lunch with an adversary by saying "I'm not hungry," but Obama seems to reserve the line for his "friends." Visiting France, he declined to dine with the Sarkozys. Visiting Norway, he declined to dine with the king at a banquet thrown explicitly in Obama's honor. The other day, the president declined to dine with Netanyahu even though the Israeli prime minister was his guest in the White House at the time. The British prime minister, five times rebuffed in his attempt to book a date, had to make do with a perfunctory walk 'n' talk through the kitchens of the U.N. Obama's shtick as a candidate was that he was the guy who'd talk to anyone, anytime, anywhere. Instead, he recoils from all but the most minimal contact with the world.

John Bolton calls him "the first post-American president" and is punctilious enough to add that he doesn't mean "un-American" or "anti-American." In his Berlin speech, he presented himself as a "citizen of the world," which, whatever else it means, suggests an indifference to America's role as guarantor of the global order. The postponement of his Australian trip in order to ram health care down the throats of the American people was a neat distillation of the reality of his priorities: A transformative domestic agenda must necessarily come at the price of America's global role. One-worldism is often a convenient cover for ignorance: You'd be hard pressed to find a self-proclaimed "multiculturalist" who can tell you the capital of Lesotho or the principal exports of Bhutan. And so it is with liberal internationalism: The citoyen du monde is the most parochial president of modern times.

— Mark Steyn, a National Review columnist, is author of America Alone. © 2010 Mark Steyn.

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