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Pijanista

In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: Who lost Europe ?

Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.


Dear friends,
Thank you very much for inviting me.
I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe.
This not only is a "clear and present danger" to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West.
The United States & Canada as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.
First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe . Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem .
The Europe you know is changing.
You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.
All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe . These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe , street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.
There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe . With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: We rule !
Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam , Marseille and Malmo in Sweden for example . In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.
In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the word "farm" can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.
Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils.

In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear calls of 'whore, whore' directed at them . Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.
In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin . The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity with any jewish issues .
In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves.
Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels , because he was drinking during the time of Ramadan.
Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya , Israel . I could go on forever with stories like this. "Stories about Islamization".
A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe . San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now.
Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.
Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are very few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France .
One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We now have Muslim official state holidays.
The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey .
Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots.
Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our western societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.
The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time.

Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.
Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'.
Islam is not compatible with Western freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is Sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.
Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country - Israel and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel . First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a true Democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.
This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines , Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan , Lebanon , and Aceh in Indonesia .
Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was against communism during the Cold War.
The war against Israel is not a war against Israel . It is a war against the West. It is jihad.
Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us in the West . If there would have been no Israel , Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming ahead....
Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West, It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our western values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel , they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'.

In my country, the Netherlands , 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one political policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat to our culture . Yet there is a greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America & Canada as the last men standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine.
An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome , Athens and Jerusalem .
Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives.

All throughout Europe , American & Canadian cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe 's children in the same state in which it was offered to us.
We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Our Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so.
We have to take the necessary action now to stop this Islamic stupidity from destroying the free world that we know.

Please take the time to read and understand what is written here, Please send it to every free person that you know, it is so very important.

Tromotorac

Tip kaze ono sto sam i ja pisao - ako sutra nestane Izrael, npr. presele celo stanovnistvo u Everglades, ili bilo gde, problemi na bliskom istoku ne bi prestali. On smatra naprotiv, to bi signaliziralo slabost zapada i onda ojacalo Islamsku konfrontaciju sa zapadom.

Nego, 'oce li da hapse ovog tipa kad se vrati u Amsterdam? Tamo bese ovakvi govori su verbalni delikt?
The bums will always loose.

amans

Liberté, égalité, fraternité coming back to bite  :evil:
We're lost, but we're making good time.

zagor te nej

Ovom su zabranili ulaz u Britaniju, vratili ga sa aerodroma, izabranog parlamentarca bratske je li, EU drzave. Da se valjda ne uzbudi onaj zvalavi olos iz council buildinga koji ionako ne radi nista sem sto sprema backpack bombe za avione i subway.

Jedino sto ne kaze je da i hriscanstvo u radiklanim verzijama isto tako dogmatsko kao i  islam - razlika je u tome sto je to i takvo hriscanstvo manjina, a ovakav islam jasna vecina.

Nadam se da ga dobro cuvaju, da ga neko ne prikolje u Amsterdamu kao onomad onog nesretnog filmadziju.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Tromotorac

Ako je istina ovo sto kaze u vezi Winstona Chercila i njegovog pogleda na Quran, to daje novu dimenziju Obaminoj antipatiji prema Chercilu. Ja sam mislio da je to samo po kenijskoj liniji.
The bums will always loose.

Ivan_D

Da, zabranili mu da udje u UK. Ne znam kako i po kom zakonu su zabranili coveku da udje, ali zabranili.

Zapad se ponasa kukavicki prema islamu. U Holandiji direktor skole zamolio djaka da skine holandsku zastavu koju je imao zasivenu na rancu, jer to "vredja" muslimanske ucenike. U sred zemlje Holadnije.
Stalno se pazi da se zgadija nekako ne uvredi, stalno im se izlazi u susret, stalno im se sve tolerise.

SMRT primitivnom islamu!!!
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Tromotorac

Evropa sve vise lici na "Time Machine" pricu gde u buducnosti postoje dve vrste - Morlocks i Eloi. Eloi behu mirni, elegantni i sofisticirani, i nesposobni da se odbrane, dok su Morlocks bili divljaci iz podzemlja, koji bi povremeno ulovili nekog Eloija, da se njime nahrane.

Mene je iznenadilo kad sam cuo da negde u Belgiji/Danskoj/Holandiji, gde vec, su neke poslanike vukli po sudovima zbog izjava koje su njihovi sudovi procenili kao verbalni delikt i razbuktavanje mrznje.

Sad me iznenadila i ova informacija da se u UK vec primenjuje Serijatsko pravo u nekim delovima zemlje. Kuku majko, pa to je vec metastaziralo ako je tako.
The bums will always loose.


zagor te nej

Vidi kakav je ovaj levi za uzagrenim pogledom. Zreo za likvidaciju.
A koliok su samo svi masni.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Ivan_D

Taj bas lici na Isusa, samo sto je crn   xrotaeye
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Tromotorac

Sto im smeta britanska policija?
The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

Quote from: zagor te nej on April 01, 2010, 09:40:11 PM
Vidi kakav je ovaj levi za uzagrenim pogledom. Zreo za likvidaciju.
A koliok su samo svi masni.

Hehe, takvom nekom bese Ann Coulter rekla "go find a camel" nakon cega se cela islamska zajednica (u Kanadi valjda?) nasla uvredjena. Mnogo iskompleksirana zajednica cim se tako lako pali.
The bums will always loose.

amans

that's how you push the envelope...ovog puta se ustalasalo pa sleglo, ali ce se drugi razmisliti da li da kazu tako nesto ili uviju u staniol...
We're lost, but we're making good time.

zagor te nej

Jednom I Ann nesto da kaze a da se ja ne najezim...:)
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

amans

Zagore, jesi li to ti????  8-)
We're lost, but we're making good time.

vbo man

Ako ovako nastavi u Evropi (a prilike su) , i ovakvi ljudi dodju na vlast pa Milosevica ima posmrtno da odlikuju za borbu protiv Islama ( evo ga ovaj pominje Kosovo) a Srbi ce biti proglasheni kao vrlo dalekovid i mudar narod :mrgreen: :evil:
Onda ima da dobijemo nazad ne samo Kosovo i eto ti velike Srbije xrofl  :|
Imate neki kontra argument :mrgreen:?
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Hate mail

Resenje "muslimanskog pitanja" Keraterm metodom?
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

vbo man

Pijanisto, mogu li da dobijem link?
Hocu da predochim ovo mojim Evropljanima :mrgreen:
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Tromotorac

Milosevicev prilaz je podjednako zlikovacki koliko i islamski fundamentalizam.

EU bi mogla za pocetak da ukine imigraciju, kao sto je to Svajcarska ucinila. Medjutim nisam siguran da li su sposobni i to da urade, a kamoli neke druge korake ka zastiti svojih lokalnih/nacionalnih kultura drustava. Oni tamo ganjaju po sudovima one koji pisnu nesto protiv 'tolerancije'.
The bums will always loose.

vbo man

A koga da "uvezu"?
Missim bez "uvoza" nece ici a da ekonomija i dalje raste xdrinka
A svi smatraju da treba da raste...shto brze to bolje.
Evo ovde uvezli oko 600 000 immigranata ( najvishe iz Kine) pa kad se neki pobunili (a specijalno zbog nenormalnog rasta cena nekretnina) ovi im rekli da nece imati ko da radi i placa porez sad kad baby boomeri krenu u penziju ( od 2011-e).
Simple as that!
Moj muz i onako stalno govori da ce ovo biti zemlja zutih...tu spasa nema :cry:

E sad zuti nisu Islamisti (vecinom valjda) ali oni imaju svoju agendu...chitavi krajevi ovde su ispisani SAMO na Kineskom , ljudi se i ne trude da uche engleski, shta ce im :mrgreen:
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Ivan_D

Quote from: vbo man on April 02, 2010, 03:47:30 AM
Imate neki kontra argument :mrgreen:?

Imam ja. To je glupost sto si napisala. Islam kod Srba nije nista vise zlocinacki nego hriscanstvo kod Srba.
Dok je globalni islam mnoooooogo zlocinackiji nego globalno hriscanstvo danas.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

vbo man

QuoteIslam kod Srba nije nista vise zlocinacki nego hriscanstvo kod Srba.
Dok je globalni islam mnoooooogo zlocinackiji nego globalno hriscanstvo danas.
:x :x :x
Shta reci na ovo objashnjenje...No comment.
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

vbo man

Problem je zapada shto ne mozesh biti za sve one slobode koje zapad propagira i veruje da je dostigao kao i navodno uredjenje bez diskriminacije a istovremeno zakonima naredjivati ljudima kom Bogu da se mole i kako,kako da im izgledaju bogomolje,  kako da se oblache, kakvu kulturu da prihvate i sl. To ne ide zajedno.Ja ne znam ni kako je to sve skupa bilo zamishljeno, ako je uopshte iko razmishljao...Vidim ovaj tip je imao neku iluziju da ce Islamci da se asimiliraju ( uopshte ne kontam shta je tachno mislio pod tim ) , valjda zamishljao da ce oni sad na zapadu da se odreknu svoje religije i kulture...kad su pushtani niko im nije to predochio da se ochekuje od njih, naprotiv, recheno im je da je zapadno drushtvo tolerantno i sl.
Frustracija belih ljudi na zapadu chini mi se dolazi od toga shto Islamci, zadrzavajuci svoju religiju i kulturu nastavljaju da se mnoze i na zapadu, dok beli ljudi danas ne nalaze nachina da uopshte ochuvaju porodicu kao takvu pa s tim u vezi njihov broj nastavlja da opada.Chak i kod katolika koji su dakle i dalje vrlo konzervativni ( makar na papiru). U katol;ichkoj shkoli u kojoj je moja unuka imala sam priliku da vidim nekoliko porodica jer se moje unuche igra s tom decom i dve od tri porodice belih bili su razvedeni...
Meni se chini da je Evropa vec izgubila ovu bitku. Zabranom vela te zene koje su dosad i radile i uklapale se u sredinu koliko toliko preko toga sada ce ostajati kod kuce gde ce samo radjati josh vishe dece.Mere koje Evropa donosi su kontraproduktivne. Zanima me kako bi Evropa skochila da je Srbija zabranila minarete na dzamijama na Kosovu i uopshte u Srbiji i odredila kako da se oblache Shiptarke xuzi
I da zaustave imigraciju (shto je u sferi fantazije) mislim da je vec kasno.
I u USI ce crnci uskoro biti vecina.Oni nisu Islamci ( vecinom) ali oni imaju za USU svoj set of problems (vidim da ih ne ljubite bash). To su neminovnosti...
Ovde ce da zavladaju Kinezi...valjda tako mora , neki prirodni zakoni, shta li...
Belima niko nije kriv shto za njih postoje tolike preche stvari od porodice i dece.Igra brojeva...
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

vbo man

Evo ovde bash na TV-u ide emisija o Nemcima koji su doshli u ovu zemlju davno, mnogi nemaju ni akcenat, a drze se nekih svojih , samo Nemachkih obichaja prilikom proslave Uskrsa.Stariji od njih kazu da ce odrzavati te obichaje i prenositi ih time na decu i unuke, pa se nadaju da tako ti obichaji nece izumreti. Pitaju ih da li su Australci ili Nemci? Jedna zena kaze : Mi i dalje prichamo Nemachki kod kuce i u tom smislu osecamo se Nemcima.Kako smo jako dugo ovde i imamo Australisko drzavljanstvo osecamo se i Australcima."
Dobro je kaze jedan chovek shto vishe nije tako loshe biti Nemac...Odoh da gledam dalje...
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Jelence

Sto ne volim ovakve teme...
Malo ko govori razumno, sve se vadi iz dupeta. Mrznje na tone.

Ajd uzdravlje.
I'll tell you something about good looking people: we're not well liked

zagor te nej

Uzasno me nervira dvolicnost islamske zajednice, osobito tzv inteligencije, koja nikad I nigde nije javno pokrenula akcije protiv fenomenalnih doprinosa moderenome, je li, svetu, poput kulta bombasa samoubica, ili desetina hiljada madrasa koje kreiraju manijake na sve cetiri strane sveta, ali su tu da naprave big deal kad god neko nekog iz zajebancije zove camel jockey.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Tromotorac

Citao sam pre neki dan o slucaju honor killing jedne devojke u Arizoni, koja se "suvise amerikanizovala" po oceni svoje familije. Njen otac je ubio. Mislim kako je to moguce? Prema nalazima istrage, izgleda da je cela porodica ucestvovala. Majka se najpre pravila da nista nezna, ali prema cell phone records su utvrdili da je otac odmah po ubistvu razgovarao sa njom.

Mislim, kakvi su to ljudi koji mogu sopstvenu decu da ubiju, posle se prave da nista nije uradjeno?

Jelence, ne mrzim ja nikog; ali uopste nemam nameru da se ikom izvinjavam niti ustupam za nacin na koji ja zivim. Islamskim fundamentalistima je namera uspostavljanje globalnog Kalifata, i meni je to odbojno koliko i Srbija do Tokija.
The bums will always loose.

Ivan_D

U Turskoj (koja je vrhunac liberalizma i sloboda za muslimanski svet) nedavno otac i deda ubili 16-godisnju devojcicu zato sto je pricala sa nekim momcima i onda je zakopali u basti pored kuce.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

zagor te nej

Zatrpali zivu, jebote. Zivo dete rodjeno.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

vbo man

A je li vam bilo odbojno ono shto su Shiptari radili na Kosovu...mislim one zidine oko kuca, tretman zene uopshte (da ne pominjem shta je bilo sa Shiptarskim zenama koje bi se spandjale sa Srbima ili kojim drugima i sl).?
Ko to moze da odobrava?
Pa ipak , da li iko mogao da promeni? Nisu uspeli ni komunisti xuzi...nije ni Sadam xuzi
Kako zamishljate da se to naprasno promeni?
Naravno sva ta gnusna ubistva na zapadu se sankcionishu zatvorom ali sumnjam da ce ih to sprechiti...
Medjutim ne radi se ovde o tome ( to su ipak samo izolovani sluchajevi)...i ne radi se u prichi ovog Holandjanima o " fundamentalistima" ...on ceo Islam proglashava za "fundamentalnu i zlochinachku i ratnichku " religiju.
Shta je lek za to? Da taj gospodin ukine Islam ( bar u Holandiji i Evropi) ili da ih kao Milosevic i Sheshelj pobije i rastera iz Evrope? Missim ja ne vidim svrhu njegove poruke osim shirenja mrznje...a bar mi znamo kako to zavrshava :cry:
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Jelence

"Zatrpali zivu zenu"

Jel to obicaj u njihovom narodu da se zatrpavaju zive zene? Po istoj logici je onda po Srbiji obicaj da se siluju babe. Izvini molim te, to ti je vboizam, pokusaj da se od babe napravi zaba, e da bi se lakse poredilo.

Uostalom, u vreme bratoubilackog rata u SFRJ bilo je jos kako klanja zena pogresne vere/nacionalnosti. Sta se iz toga dalo zakljuciti? Metar budala seta zemaljskom kuglom.

Ako nam nije bilo lepo u toku 90tih da slusamo da su Srbi ovo i ono, ubice i koljaci, kako danas mozemo sve muslimane da stavljamo pod istu kapu jer je neki sumanuti roditelj na zverski nacin ubio svoje dete?!?

Guys, you should've known better.
I'll tell you something about good looking people: we're not well liked

zagor te nej

Salmana Rushdia jure da ubiju od ranih osamdesetih a da se nijedna jedina muslimanska drzava nije ponudila da ga javno zastiti. Problem zapadnog sveta u interakciji sa moderate muslimanima je sto njih niko I ne prestavlja. Imas ludake, manijake I socijalisticke dinastije poput Mubarakove u Egiptu. Ne racnajuci Indoneziju I eventualno Maleziju koje skoro da nemaju home grown fundamentaliste, na slobodnim izborima u bilo kojoj islamskoj drzavi bi pobedio ekvivalent onih glavosecha iz Hamasa.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Jelence

E, da, i druga stvar:

Everything of value will be attacked. That's fact of life.

Za sada su belci/hriscani vodeci na planeti. Pitate li se kako li je onima koji ne odgovaraju tom opisu? Pitate li se da li i dalje zasluzujemo tu rukovodecu palicu? Da je nismo malo uzeli zdravo za gotovo u poslednje vreme?

Muslimani imaju neku svoju logiku koja naravno nije bas ko otvorena knjiga u nekim sferama. Umesto zapljuvavanja mnogo bi nam vise koristila razmena informacija i iskustava sa ovim ljudima. Ovakva reakcija (panika pomesana sa pljuvanjem) je tipicna reakcija nekoga ko ne razume sta mu dolazi u susret i pocinje da naduvava balon straha od silne panike i da osudjuje svaki i najsitniji detalj.

Nas dobar prijatelj je musliman, ja ne znam za casnijeg coveka.

Sto se cojstva i junastva tice ko je imao posla sa Crnogorcima muslimani ce mu doci kao melem na ranu  :mrgreen:
I'll tell you something about good looking people: we're not well liked

Hate mail

Boli me dupe kako im je.

"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Tromotorac

Mislim da Jelence gresi kad mesa individualno i kolektivno. Al' ajd, da se ne ubedjujemo...
The bums will always loose.

slawen

А како је било онда кад су ргнули у Европу, стигли до Беча, узели више од пола Шпаније, задржали се неколико векова, па на крају попушили?

Чему паника?
We take no cash unless we cash justice for you! Are you listenin' to me? I'm givin' ya pearls hеrе!

Jelence

Ja ne kazem da treba sedeti na dupetu i nista ne raditi.

Kazem da je blame game totalna budalastina.

Radi sta mislis da treba da radis, a ovo "kako mogu da otimaju nam nasu Evropu" i "PAZI, MNOZE SE!" je naivno u pm.

Vecu korist bi imali od razumevanja one druge strane, a ne od pljuvanja po istoj.

El sam sad bila jasnija?
I'll tell you something about good looking people: we're not well liked

Ivan_D

Quote from: slawen on April 02, 2010, 03:55:38 PM
А како је било онда кад су ргнули у Европу, стигли до Беча, узели више од пола Шпаније, задржали се неколико векова, па на крају попушили?

Чему паника?

Na kraju cega?

Za 500 godina ta tvoja koncizna istorija moze da glasi: stigli do Beca, uzeli vise od pola Spanije, onda se na par vekova povukli da bi se ponovo vratili i zauzeli celu Evropu.   xfoht
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

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Previdjate najvaznije: vladajuca elita Evrope - elita koja je decidedly ne-evropska i anti-evropska - namerno je posle WW2 otvorila floodgates subhuman "imigracije" i naoruzala novopridosle trecesvetske luzere materijalnim i legalnim resursima za nesmetano razmnozavanje, uvodjenje sire rodbine legalno i outbreeding indigenous Evro-populacije. Slicno je i ovde. Religija je sekundarna, tercijarna. genetika je najvaznija. Zasto u tzv. izrael ne ulaze stotine miliona majmuna? Zato sto je imigraciona politika "FOR JEWS ONLY"!
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

zagor te nej

Eh pa razlika je u tome sto je pedeset godina politicke korektnosti, pacifizma I zasticenosti od spoljnog neprijatelja americkim konvencionalnim I nuklearnim stitom dovelo do toga da je vecina evropskih drustava neodbranjivo inertna I zrela za terorisanje uz vrlo mlake reakcije drustva u celini.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Tromotorac

Jelence, to je malo naopako. Pa ne sele se Evropljani na bliski istok, pa da treba da se potrude da ih bolje razumeju. Da je tako, zar mislis da ne bi?

Ovde se radi o imigrantima u evropi koji ne samo da nece da se asimiluju vec postaju i veoma opasna, agresivna grupacija.  Ja sam se malo nagledao arapskih muslimana u downtown Chicagu na UIC, pa sam video koliko su bili rasisti, homogeni i otvoreno agresivni. Mogu tek da zamislim kakvi su u Evropi gde ih ima vise.


I jos nesto - ovo nije uopste prica o Bosnjacima i Siptarima/ to su narodu koji su tu na svojoj zemlji vekovima. Govorim o imigracionim tokovima i njihovom efektu.
The bums will always loose.

zagor te nej

Zapad ne treba da se mesa u unutrasnje stvari islamskih drzava, to relativno govoreci progresivnije elemente izlaze jos vecoj opasnosti I otvorenom zatiranju pod parolom izdajnistva. Gde moze da se radi neki biznis radis, gde ne moze ne moze, pregovaras kad imas sa kime I o cemu, kad nemas zgazis koliko god mozes bez nekog uvlacenja u konflikt sa vojskom ba zemlji.Interes svake zapadne drzave je razvijanje alternativnih izvora energije I smanjivanje zavisnosti od nafte, jer onda imas potpunu autonomiju da recimo likvidiras sve sto mozes u politicko teroristickoj eliti Irana a da se ne uzbudjujes oko naftnog embarga I cena barela. Ovo je neostvarivo u bliskoj buducnosti ali bice Irana negde na svetu I za 30 godina.
"Prediction is very difficult, especially of the future."
Niels Bohr

Mirabella

Don't argue with an Idiot.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Mirabella

Don't argue with an Idiot.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Jelence

Quote from: Mirabella on April 02, 2010, 04:35:51 PM
Incidentally, bas dobih ovo.

http://tartanmarine.blogspot.com/2009/02/robert.html

Aiiiiiiiiiiiiii... Ovaj gori od naseg Hejta.

Ne da hejta nego nije malo.
I'll tell you something about good looking people: we're not well liked

vbo man

Quoteto ti je vboizam
Je*o te uci cu u srpske rechnike josh :x xdrinka
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

vbo man

QuoteI just wish the black president was Condi Rice, or someone who believes more in freedom and the individual and less in an all-knowing government.
xrofl

Nazalost ovakvih umornih u USI ima tushta i tma reklo bi se xdrinka
Mogla sam da mislim da je neki Vijetnamski veteran kao i oni dole koji su komentarisali ovacijama...Oni ni danas ne shvataju shta su radili u Vjetnamu...let alone da su proshli kroz neku katarzu. I danas svoju decu zrtvuju ko jagnjice za jebenu naftu...Srecom (i po njih kao shto on sam reche) i po USU , ovakvi ce uskoro da putuju.
Tuzna je Amerika...toliki ljudi zive u denial - u o tome shta je USA danas...bar na svetskoj pozornici...
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Tromotorac


Der Spiegel Special: Muslims in EuropeRelated articles, background features and opinions about this topic.


It Makes No Sense to Ban the Burqa
By Yassin Musharbash

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,687105,00.html
The bums will always loose.

vbo man

Odlichan tekst Tromotorac... :|
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.