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Prica mi Dusan, vec par godina u banci gde radi, a i u puno drugih velikih i manjih preduzeca ovde, zahtevaju od njih da ujutru kad dodju kazu grupi/menadzeru nesto kao:
Dobro jutro, veoma sam srecan sto radim u ovoj firmi i drago mi je da sam clan tako dobrog tima. Danas planiram da uradim to, to i to i planiram da potrosim toliko i toliko vremena na svaku od ovih aktivnosti.

I onda na kraju radnog vremena slicno: danas sam uradio to i to, ovo nisam uspeo da uradim i mislim da su razlozi za to sledeci....

xrofl xrofl xrofl

Preuzeli su to od Japanace, od Toyote tacnije receno i postoji i japanska rec za to koju sam zaboravio. Banka je platila profesionalce da introduciraju tu praktiku i par meseci su dolazili jednom-dvaput nedeljno da ih nauce kako da to rade.

Dusan jednom rekao tokom jutarnje seanse da je nesrecan i odmah mu lupili crticu, pozvali ga na razgovor posle toga da bolje razumeju razloge njegove nesrece i pitali ga kako misli da ce se to odraziti na njegov posao ako je nesrecan, te da oni zele da stvore uslovi da zaposleni budu srecni, a ako dugotrajno nije srecan da je bolje da ode.   xrofl xrofl xrofl

I odonda je uglavnom srecan i dobro raspolozen.   :mrgreen:

A kaze mi i pre nekoliko godina dok jos nisu institucijalizovali te seanse i napravili od toga rutinsku stvar, su imali par puta team building nedeljno gde su morali da igraju neke lude igre, da pricaju kako planiraju da rade na networking-u i slicno.
I onda imas coveka od 50 godina koji mora mrtav ozbiljan da prica nekom team-leaderu od 30 kako je prosli vikend bio sa porodicom na pikniku, pored njih je bila jedna druga porodica ciji otac radi za Citroen i oni su posle par sati price razmenili visit kartice i to se sigurno nece zavrsiti na tome, vec ce u buducnosti sigurno naci nacin kako mogu profesionalno jedan drugom nesto da znace.

Jedino mogu da kazem da mi je predrago sto nisam deo tog sveta.   xfuck5

1. Dusan, the petty thief and gambler, radi u banci?

2. Sta je to "institucijalizovali"?

3. Sta je to "odonda"?

4. Ja za ovakve gluposti nikad "dosad" nisam cuo. Hvala na update-u iz EUSSR.

5. Holandija je pala u PC ropstvo. Posavetuj prijatelja da se premesti na neku slobodnu teritoriju.

6. Da li je Dusan tek tu skoro poceo da (stvarno nesto) radi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Toyota_Way cilj je da se poboljsa produktivnost i smanje muda

Dusan radi u (toj) banci vec 14 godina.

Nisam ni ja cuo za to do danas. Isto kao sto nisam bio cuo ni za $1 brownie = 2 hrs overtime dok ti nisi ispricao.

Ja to ispricao?

Kad?

Gde?

Jesi li siguran da ti je to neko uopste ispricao, jer tek to nisam "dosad" nikad cuo, ili si samo sanjao?

bas citam vrli novi svijet.


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Ivan_D   08:43:59 PM   Viewing the results of a search.

:mrgreen:

Sta li ce da izbunari i onda pokusa da nam poturi ovde... Probisvet jedan.

 :mrgreen:

Trazio Dusana, da li sam jos pre pominjao da radi u banci.

On radi u trading department, ali verovatno na nekoj nevaznoj funkciji jer zaradjuje 2300 eura cisto, a primera radi onaj Slovak u Pragu zaradjuje 8k u istom departmentu, druga banka doduse. But then again, Dusan izgubi 500-600 mesecno u proseku kockajuci se, tako da sve izadje na isto.

Sta je to trading department?

Da li si mislio investment bank/broker-dealer/proprietary trading desk?

2,300 x 12 = 27,600 evra godisnje.

Not good.

IT Help Desk?

Ne znam. Mada, da, pominje ponekad dealer room / trading desk i sl.

QuoteIT Help Desk?

Ne bre, Dusan ne zna holandski.

Na kom jeziku radi?!

Pa na holandskom. Htedoh reci lose govori holandski da bi radio kao tech support

A dobro govori da bi trgovao hartijama od vrednosti i/ili valutama??

Ovde je i trading support pozicija (22 year old kid straight out of college, full time ili summer intern) bolje placena.

To njegovo je $37,000/year a to je pola od plate mediocre bank/desk/product trade support posla ovde (za dete).

On ne trguje, samo je na tom odeljenju. Ne znam tacno sta radi, verovatno nesto vrlo nevazno, ali, eto, ne mogu da ga se otarase.

2300 zaradjuje netto. Bruto verovatno 3500-4000. Sumnjam da klinac od 22 godine zaradjuje $6500 cisto mesecno, cak iako je NYC u pitanju. Mozda gross.

QuoteDusan, a gambler, radi u banci?

So? Look: https://www.gamblingtherapy.org/en/end-and-beginning

Hi, my name is Jack Wilson and I'm a compulsive gambler. The worst day of my life was 2/22/12. I had lost $40K over an 8 hour gambling binge. It was my school loan. It was absolute rock bottom. That very day, I went to GA and over the next 30 days, I went to 27 GA sessions. I drove as far as 90 minutes to get to GA. I just felt like I didn't belong. I was somehow "better" than the people there. Ashamed that someone might recognize me and would affect my job. I'm a binge gambler.

I'm a financial adviser. I provide advise for clients on what stocks to buy. I've made some very good recommendations. However, I've never been able to make money for myself. I did not "gamble" until 11/4/2013, nearly 2 years later when I decided to buy some stocks. The stocks did incredibly well but I found myself immersed in the markets. Buying, trading, selling. For the next 6 months, it occupied all my thoughts. I was no longer a sane person. I had forgotten about all the lessons of compassion. I couldn't focus. I was irritable. Everything collapsed on 5/23/14 when I started what has been a 3 week sports betting binge. Everyday, I would spend every waking minute analyzing or watching games. I miraculously made $44K during this time, but predictably, I have lost $34K in the past 3 days. Money does not matter. I did not feel joy when winning and now, I feel relieved that I've found this website and I've lost.

What I've learned is that I can never gamble again. I've been a compulsive gambler for 15 years. It's been a hard road. It's been a tough road. I just have to start on my new journey, one day at a time. I don't want to go to GA. I will post on here regularly. Thank you for reading about my story.

Godisnje, covek.

Ja sam te njegove mesecne evre pomnozio sa 12 da dobijem gosidnju cifru i onda to pomnozio sa 1.35 da dobijem znaci godisnju cifru u real money novcu.

Napisao si da dete zaradjuje duplo vise od Dusanovih 37K godisnje, sto je 74K godisnje ili oko 6K mesecno.

Ja rekoh da mi ne izgleda verovatno da dete od 22 godine zaradjuje 6K mesecno after tax.

That's because you're far removed from the real economy and the workforce dynamics and trends.

Dobro sad, nije vazno, Dusan sigurno ne radi to nego nesto ko-zna-sta.

Ipak, sto se tice trade support (trader's assistant) poslova:

http://www.google.co.ve/search?q=trader+assistant+jobs+salaries&safe=off&oq=trader+assistant+jobs+salaries&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...5115.7279.0.7486.9.8.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.34.mobile-heirloom-serp..9.0.0.sUzazlaV7ck

http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/assistant-trader-salary-SRCH_KO0,16.htm

Posto je on izgleda znatno vise k svetu od tebe, probaj molim te da utices na njega da se pomeri ka trading operations in general, mozda kao trader assistant a ko zna, jednog dana moze da bude kao nas idol Jerome Kerviel!

To si mogao da budes i ti, by the way, given your undisputed intelligence and even the degrees you got from that outfit in Prague, nego to nije fino...

Samo jos jedno iz niza razocarenja koja si mi priredio...

Mislim da sam vam se vec jednom ranije zahvalila na smehu koji kod mene izazovete svakoga jutra kada dodjem na posao. xrofl  Niste ni ovog ponedeljka izostali. xrofl

He knows to tap me on weekends for the best kill ratio.  :mrgreen:

 :mrgreen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A9r%C3%B4me_Kerviel

Uvek sirotinju strpaju u zatvor za sistemske greske.

Ovaj covek je dete frizerke i kovaca, a zaradjivao je u vreme kad su ga uhapsili 2000 eura mesecno (manje nego Dusan, dakle).
Ne znam kako ih nije bilo sramota da ga strpaju u zatvor.

I da ga onako prevare za pare.

i to    :roll:

 8-) Jsi  :evil:...

Ivane, kako je moguce da se necega ovako beskorisnog/adding-no-value-to-society-whatsoever-but-extracting-value-instead nisi ti prvi setio??

JOS jedno u nizu razocarenja koja si mi priredio...

http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/30/technology/kardashian-app-game/index.html?iid=HP_LN&hpt=hp_t2

Ja sam luzer + niemand, ne mozes od mene ocekivati takve poduhvate.

define: adding value

Even if you could (define it), associating adding value with profit making is a big mistake.

Ovo sto ja radim generalno se moze nazvati i naziva se "optimalna alokacija kapitala" u americkoj i svetskoj ekonomiji ili, da pozajmim od starijeg i znatno verziranijeg kolege Lloyda Blankfeina - CEO-a Goldman Sachs-a: "I'm doing God's work". Recju, on i ja zaista pruzamo/provide/add value.

O ovome imam i napismeno ali cifra ti ne dozvoljava da to vidis (ima kome je cifra dozvolila, pache, te ko je i video).

Docim ja nisam ni tvrdio da adding value stoji u ikakvoj korelaciji sa izvlacenjem profita, osobito direktnoj.

Pa ovaj CNN Money link upravo govori o slucaju gde je ta korelacija fully inverzna.

A priznaces da je to to: trange-frange, websites, games, sistemi za plutanje ispod radara, probisvetski, no value whatsoever, just extracting value for one's own self/burning air and proteins for the sheer fuck of it.

To je taj model.

Mozda je taj sto se toga setio i onda to uradio jos veci luzer i niemand no to ti, given the scale of his extraction accomplishment and the sheer audacity of its utter meaninglessness.

Nisi to bas sve dobro promislio. A sumnjam da je tvoja ovarall contribution svetu/drustvu veca od moje.
Ono, istina, ti si bolji/vredniji drustvu u celini, ali u malim zanemarljivim iznosima pojedincima u celini.
Dalje, tvoj model je sustainable on a global scale, priznacu. Moj nije. Ali dok god obojica igramo within given rules, to ne moze ni da bude predmet rasprave.

Ono sto zanemarljujes (nenamerno, siguran sam) je da ti imas daleko manju vrednost svom direktnom okruzenju, tj. ljudima oko sebe, nego ja.
I ne govorim ovde samo o porodici, da ne bude zabune, vec cisto o ljudima sa kojima dnevno interaktiras.
Ti si nezanimljiv, dosadan i jeftin.
Ja, na drugu stranu, nisam jeftin. Kao direktan dokaz toga, danas sam dao 40 eura za sisanje. U Pragu placam 5 eura. Ali eto, posto nisam jeftin, nisam hteo da idem zarastao, proslo je 2 nedelje od kad sam se sisao poslednji put.

Si dao nekad 40 eura ($55) na neki servis? Ja jednom dao 600 eura za 2 sata servisa. Again, it's because I'm not cheap. Just gullible.

I really enjoy reading poor people's diatribes and exposes on varying subjects.

It is well entertaining.

Thank you for the money

Is that you, Shanee'qa?

http://www.movoto.com/blog/opinions/wealthiest-person-map/

QuoteJa jednom dao 600 eura za 2 sata servisa.

Onomad u Amsterdamu, sat za tebe sat za Dusana?

Anyways, pogledaj sta sve ja moram da radim svake godine (ovo je samo jedan od ko zna koliko questionnaires koji periodicno stizu u e-mailu od Legal & Compliance ekipe; zanimljivo, sva ta aktivnost i popunjavanje formulara nikako da zaustavi evidentno random kriminalne elemente unutar firme da skoro svake godine naprave neku brljotinu zbog koje em zaglave na sudu em mi onda platimo po 100 miliona USD kazni sto ovde, sto u Londonu, sto na obe strane okeana)...

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:mrgreen: xrofl xrofl

Quote from: Hate mail on August 04, 2014, 03:14:53 PM

2.   Are you now or have you, since January 2013, been the subject of any written complaints by Ivan_D?   

Non- stop. :mrgreen: xrofl

Pa kad me namerno cima preko vikenda; ludak.

Inace mi je vrlo drag (kad bas nisam mnogo busy).

Quote from: Ivan_D on August 02, 2014, 05:12:08 PM
Kao direktan dokaz toga, danas sam dao 40 eura za sisanje.

За шишање превише, за сисање ваљда није?

Смрт о смрт ошишаној латиници.

Quote from: Pareski do on August 06, 2014, 11:52:40 AM

Смрт о смрт ошишаној латиници.

:lol:

lajk

Smrt, o, smrt bezveznoj cirilici.

Šišanje, šišanje, za bj+hj sam platio 100 eura par dana pre toga.

Nego htedoh da napisem u vezi tog šišanja i kako mi Srbi stalno, uvek i podmuklo zagorcavaju zivot. Ovde u centru gde smo odseli sve je dosta skupo, pa tako i frizerski saloni. Ovo me je šišao junior stylist i to je bilo 40 eura, senior stylist bi bio 70, ali eto imao sam srece.
Salon neki way too fancy za moj ukus, a posto je moj holandski dosta los posle 15 godina nepricanja, odlucim ja da pricam engleski tamo da bih sebi stvorio komotniju atmosferu.

Baja sto me šišao klinac 22 godine, gay najverovatnije, a desilo se da je i taj dan bila gay parada.
Kosu mi oprala jedna devojka, onda dosao on. šišao me je dobrih 40 minuta i sve vreme sam s njim morao da pricam. Naravno jedno od prvih pitanja je bilo odakle sam.
Ja nikad ne lazem oko toga jer je bezveze, a i nekoliko puta sam bio svedok situacija gde su drugi, random ljudi, lagali oko toga odakle su i krajnje je glupo kad/ako se provali. Ultra glupo.

Ali ovo je bilo bas na gay pride day i baja koji me je sisao je bio gay. I kako sad da mu kazem da sam iz Svrbije.   :shock: :x :cry:
I promrmljam brze nego sto sam mogao da razmislim, "I live in" i onda dosta jasno kazem "Czech Republic"

I posle sam ceo dan bio ljut na Srbe zato sto me stalno dovode u neprijatne/nelagodne/bezveze situacije...

Napravio  sam cak i spisak evropskih zemalja iz kojih ne bih voleo da sam. Moja, licna, subjektivna percepcija. (bez zemalja kao Belorusija, Moldavija itd, jer sam te ljude jako malo sretao)

Lista, od najgorih ka boljim, obviously  ;)

1) Albanija / Kosovo
2) BiH / Makedonija
3) Srbija
4) Rumunija / Bugarska
5) Ukrajina / Rusija
6) Poljska
7) Hrvatska

Te dve extra zemlje mozes 'ladno da prikacis na 5) i 4), in that rrder.