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Tromotorac

Quote from: Hate mail on February 22, 2011, 07:24:11 PM
Kakav bolesni manijak... Prelazim na islam cim ga neko skrati za tu bolesnu glavu... I promise.

Islam, as in submission? How nice.

Mislis da nakon Gadafija nece biti "vi se setate ulicom a mi ginemo, majku vam..." ? Hehe.
The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

You like Henry Rollins ("You like Huey Lewis and the News?")?

:mrgreen:

Rollins Band - Liar
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Pijanista

AX JACHO JE!

Glas Razuma:

KOMITA1941
22. februar 2011. u 13.52

У Либији се данас брани слобода целог света против америчке и нато стоке!!!

slawen

"The activists who were arrested Saturday were allegedly caught watching video footage of protests that led to the ouster of presidents Zine El Abidine Ben Ali of Tunisia and Hosni Mubarak of Egypt..."

Mного гледали америчке филмове. :mrgreen:
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Tromotorac

Ovaj je zesci ludak kad salje avione da bombarduju... mogao je samo da ih salje da probijaju zvucni zid, to bi bilo dovoljno.

http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFLDE71M1RN20110223?sp=true
The bums will always loose.

Pijanista

Cujem neke glasine da su nasi placenici u Libiji da pomognu Gadafiju protiv HATO CTOKE. Zna li neko nesto o tome?

slawen

Срби у "Блицу":

marko
Utorak, 22. 02. 2011. 12:32h
neregistrovan korisnik
E, Libijci,trazili ste preko hleba pogace.Gadafi vam je sve dao, Gadafi ce vam sve uzeti,sa njegovim odlaskom,lutacete opet po pustinji
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Hate mail

Uzurpatori. Treba ih vratiti u stepu da tamo lutaju i filosofiraju.
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Pijanista

Quaddafi moze ladno da zatrazi azil u BiH. Zena mu je Bosanka.

Mirabella

Vidi stvarno, Sofija Farkas iz Mostara, ko biH rekao...
Don't argue with an Idiot.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Hate mail

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AFord

hrvatica.
nije se ona lose udala evo sve do sada. mada i sada, dajem im mesec dana pa ce nogicama u dupe pa u neku od okolnih drzava u azil sa svim tim zlatnim polugama. da se ne sekira.

Pijanista

Ja navijam za Crnu Goru.
Mozes misliti, Mubarak, Gadafi, onaj sa Taljanda, a mozda i Kastro, neki Kim, Saudi "Kralj", Ahmad i Nedzad,  Putin, Lukasenko, Sultan Bruneija, Sultan Ovoga, Sultan Onoga, Kraljica Elizabeta svi zajedno na danima mimoze. Leptejebo.


Tromotorac

Quote from: Pijanista on February 23, 2011, 08:07:34 PM
Ja navijam za Crnu Goru.
Mozes misliti, Mubarak, Gadafi, onaj sa Taljanda, a mozda i Kastro, neki Kim, Saudi "Kralj", Ahmad i Nedzad,  Putin, Lukasenko, Sultan Bruneija, Sultan Ovoga, Sultan Onoga, Kraljica Elizabeta svi zajedno na danima mimoze. Leptejebo.

Bingo nights!

Zamisli koje bi tu price padale.
The bums will always loose.

AFord

family guy imao epizodu sa Slobom, Kastrom, Sadamom kako rostiljaju oko bazena.


Mirabella

Don't argue with an Idiot.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Hate mail

1 - Libyan somali refugee
omar the somalian (Guest)
06:48pm GMT, 09:48pm KSA, 23/02/2011

Hi i just crossed the border to egypt, the Libyan people not the governement is killing any black or somalian that they see in the street. i have witnessed 80 somali and 20 ethiopian and 10 tchadian being executed by stone and hand in the city of bengazi accused of belonging to african mercenery. i personally escaped cause i didnt have the fare to pay the bus so i was hiding on the roof of the bus. It is a GENOCIDE please help us please help we are not mercenery we are refugee that escaped somalia for peace and freedom and on our way to euro

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/02/23/138957.html
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Pijanista

Odakle to? Ne bi me cudilo da je istina, kao sto me ne bi cudilo da je patka kao ona o 100,000 ubijenih Albanaca na Kosovu.

slawen

Quote from: Hate mail on February 23, 2011, 07:50:03 PM
Farkas? Madjarica.
Јесте. Значи нешто као вук, репоња.... колико сам ја чуо.
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slawen


Можда није Сомалијац, можда је Нигеријац?
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Hate mail

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Daisy

Quote
In January 2002, Gaddafi purchased a 7.5% share of Italian football club Juventus for USD 21 million, through Lafico ("Libyan Arab Foreign Investment Company"). This followed a long-standing association with the Italian industrialist Gianni Agnelli and car manufacturer Fiat.

Gaddafi holds an honorary degree from Megatrend University in Belgrade conferred on him by former Yugoslav President Zoran Lilić.


Više volim da mi se neko izveštačeno osmehne, nego da se spontano izdere na mene.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Pijanista

Evo vidim, i Hrvati se guraju preklo reda. Polako, prvo Grcka, pa Belgija...

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Pijanista

Pa ne znam, cujem neka sranja u Agramu. Mozda je to je g-dja Qaddafi navodno Hrvatica, ili sto su Muslimani iz Be-Ha Hrvatsko Cvijece (Hrvatska kimilsungia), curac bi ga znao.

Tromotorac

Ima li vesti od pravoslavnih talibana? Cekaju mart da jos malo otopli?
The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

slawen

Oно "Алаху екбер!" на почетку је убило се да се од тога направи нека ефектна реклама.
И ово са колима која је прегазио тенк је одлично.

А ови што краду књиге - not so much.
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Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

slawen

Након што је цела породица Гадафи делима демантовала чувену изјаву британског министра спољних дела да је палковник побегао у Венецуелу, ево нових охрабрујућих момената:
In a symbol of Col Gaddafi's loosening grip on power, the "busty" Ukrainian nurse revealed to have been the dictator's constant companion was said to be returning to her family in Europe. (Дејли Телеграф)
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Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

"Gadhafi criticized the U.N. Security Council resolution Sunday, telling private Serbian station Pink TV by phone that council members "took a decision based on media reports that are based abroad."He added, "If the Security Council wants to know about something, they should have sent a fact-finding committee."
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slawen

Тако је, то кажу и наши повратници из Либије.  :mrgreen:


СДПР.
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Hate mail

Savezna direkcija za promet robe posebne namene. Srbski brend.
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Tromotorac

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/02/27/un-american-revolutions.print.html

Un-American Revolutions
Most rebellions end in carnage and tyranny. So why are Americans cheering on the Arab revolutionary wave?by Niall Ferguson

February 27, 2011

Richard Dalaume / ZUMA (left); Bettmann-Corbis


Americans love a revolution. Their own great nation having been founded by a revolutionary declaration and forged by a revolutionary war, they instinctively side with revolutionaries in other lands, no matter how different their circumstances, no matter how disastrous the outcomes. This chronic reluctance to learn from history could carry a very heavy price tag if the revolutionary wave currently sweeping across North Africa and the Middle East breaks with the same shattering impact as most revolutionary waves.

Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson hailed the French Revolution. "The French have served an apprenticeship to Liberty in this country," wrote the former, "and now ... they have set up for themselves." Jefferson even defended the Jacobins, architects of the bloody Reign of Terror. "The liberty of the whole earth was depending on the issue of the contest," he wrote in 1793, "and was ever such a prize won with so little innocent blood? ... Rather than [the revolution] should have failed, I would have seen half the earth desolated."

In Ten Days That Shook the World, the journalist John Reed was equally enthusiastic about the Russian Revolution of 1917, a book for which Lenin himself ("great Lenin" to Reed) wrote an enthusiastic preface. Reed's counterpart in China's communist revolution was Edgar Snow, whose characterization of Mao—"He had the simplicity and naturalness of the Chinese peasant, with a lively sense of humor and a love of rustic laughter"—today freezes the blood.

Time and again, Americans have hailed revolutions, only to fall strangely silent as those same revolutions proceeded to devour not only their own children but many other people's too. In each case the body count was in the millions.

So as you watch revolution sweeping through the Arab world (and potentially beyond), remember these three things about non-American revolutions:

•They take years to unfold. It may have seemed like glad confident morning in 1789, 1917, and 1949. Four years later it was darkness at noon.
•They begin by challenging an existing political order, but the more violence is needed to achieve that end, the more the initiative passes to men of violence—Robespierre, Stalin, and the supremely callous Mao himself.
•Because neighboring countries feel challenged by the revolution, internal violence is soon followed by external violence, either because the revolution is genuinely threatened by foreigners (as in the French and Russian cases) or because it suits the revolutionaries to blame an external threat for domestic problems (as when China intervened in the Korean War).

To which an American might reply: yes, but was all this not true of our revolution too? The American Revolution was protracted: five years elapsed between the Declaration of Independence and Yorktown. It was violent. And it was, of course, resisted from abroad. Yet the scale of the violence in the American Revolution was, by the standards of the other great revolutions of history, modest. Twenty times as many Frenchmen were killed in battle between 1792 and 1815 as Americans between 1775 and 1783. And, as Maya Jasanoff points out in her brilliant new book, Liberty's Exiles, the losers in the American Revolution were not guillotined, or purged, or starved to death. Most of them simply left the 13 rebel colonies for more stable parts of the British Empire and got on with their lives.

There were other important differences too. The people who made the American Revolution were, by 18th-century standards, exceptionally well off and well educated. People in Libya today are closer to the sans-culottes of the Paris back streets, the lumpenproletariat of the Petrograd slums, or the illiterate peasants who flocked to Mao's standard. And that is why the likelihood of large-scale and protracted violence is so much greater in the Arab world today than it ever was in North America in the 1770s. Poor, ill-educated young men. Around 40 million of them.

Two weeks ago I criticized the Obama administration for its failure not only to foresee this crisis but also to have any kind of coherent grand strategy to cope with it—resulting in a period of hapless confusion in American foreign policy. A number of critics wondered what such a coherent strategy might have looked like. The answer is this.

For many years American administrations tried to have it both ways in the Middle East, preaching the merits of democratization while doing next to nothing to pressure the region's despots to reform, provided their misbehavior remained within tolerable limits (no invading Israel or Kuwait, no acquiring weapons of mass destruction). The Bush administration put an end to that double-talk by practicing as well as preaching a policy of democratization—using force to establish elected governments in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

The Obama administration was elected by a great many Americans who regretted the costs of that policy. Yet in place of the Bush doctrine came ... nothing. Obama's obsequious 2009 speech in Cairo offered a feeble hand of friendship to the Muslim world. But to whom was it extended? To the tyrants? Or to their subject peoples? Obama apparently hoped he, too, could have it both ways, even shaking hands with the odious Muammar Gaddafi.

The correct strategy—which, incidentally, John McCain would have actively pursued had he been elected in 2008—was twofold. First, we should have tried to repeat the successes of the pre-1989 period, when we practiced what we preached in Central and Eastern Europe by actively supporting those individuals and movements who aspired to replace the communist puppet regimes with democracies.

Western support for the likes of Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Solidarity in Poland was real. And it was one of the reasons that, when the crisis of the Soviet empire came in 1989, there were genuine democrats ready and waiting to step into the vacuums created by Mikhail Gorbachev's "Sinatra Doctrine" (whereby each Warsaw Pact country was allowed to do things "its way").

No such effort has been made in the Arab world. On the contrary, efforts in that direction have been scaled down. The result is that we have absolutely no idea who is going to fill today's vacuums of power. Only the hopelessly naive imagine that 30-something Google executives will emerge as the new leaders of the Arab world, aided by their social network of Facebook friends. The far more likely outcome—as in past revolutions—is that power will pass to the best organized, most radical, and most ruthless elements in the revolution, which in this case means Islamists like the Muslim Brotherhood.

The second part of our strategy should have been to exploit the divisions within the Islamist movement. These are very deep, most obviously because Shiite Iran has an altogether different vision of an Islamicized Middle East than, say, Wahhabi Al Qaeda. As I write, the Iranians have made their most brazen move yet by sending two warships through the Suez Canal into the eastern Mediterranean. This should not worry only Israel. It should also worry Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who dreams of a revived Ottoman Empire as the dominant power in the region.

In the absence of an American strategy, the probability of a worst-case scenario creeps up every day—a scenario of the sort that ultimately arose in revolutionary France, Russia, and China. First the revolutions in North Africa and the Middle East could turn much more violent, with a death toll running into tens or hundreds of thousands. Then they could spark a full-blown war, claiming millions of lives. Worst of all, out of that war could emerge an enemy as formidable as Napoleon's France, Stalin's Soviet Union, or Mao's China.

Yes, Americans love revolutions. But they should stick to loving their own.
The bums will always loose.

Tromotorac

The bums will always loose.

Hate mail

Kakav je to bolesni skot, neverovatno. Sjajno je ispao, doduse. A vidi sto i on, kao i dicni turkosrbi, cuva slobodarske rusevine usred grada. 'Bem ti budale...
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Tromotorac

Nece jos dugo.  Britanski specijalci su evakuisali skoro sve svoje gradjane, USS Enterprise je na putu prema Suezu i kako kaze UK telegraph pocinje "major international diplomatic offensive" protiv Gadafija. Poslece mu 2-3 ljutita pisma, eventualno no-fly 'danger' zone.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8349896/Special-forces-swoop-on-Libya-to-pull-Britons-to-safety.html
The bums will always loose.

slawen

Quote from: Tromotorac on February 28, 2011, 04:20:32 PM
http://www.newsweek.com/2011/02/27/un-american-revolutions.print.html

Un-American Revolutions
Most rebellions end in carnage and tyranny. So why are Americans cheering on the Arab revolutionary wave?by Niall Ferguson

February 27, 2011

Richard Dalaume / ZUMA (left); Bettmann-Corbis


Americans love a revolution. Their own great nation having been...
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Pijanista


Islamska Republika u opasnosti, zene vrebaju:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12599837

Iran opposition leaders Mousavi and Karroubi 'arrested'
Mr Mousavi and Mr Karroubi had previously been under house arrest Iranian opposition leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi and their wives have been taken from their homes by security forces, reports suggest.


Pijanista

Bwhahahahha, zamrzavaju 30mlrd dolara imovine "Libijskog rezima". Znas kad ce Libijci to da vide....

Nego, ne cini li vam se da Klintonka sve vise lici na Olbrajtovu?


Tromotorac

Quote from: Pijanista on February 28, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
Bwhahahahha, zamrzavaju 30mlrd dolara imovine "Libijskog rezima". Znas kad ce Libijci to da vide....

Nego, ne cini li vam se da Klintonka sve vise lici na Olbrajtovu?



Mislis ovako:

The bums will always loose.


Tromotorac

To je Hillary na nekoj White House reception ovog januara. Kako se bese zvala ona vestica u Strumpfovima? Teta Drndara ili tako nesto?
The bums will always loose.

slawen

Quote from: Tromotorac on February 28, 2011, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: Pijanista on February 28, 2011, 08:55:22 PM
Bwhahahahha, zamrzavaju 30mlrd dolara imovine "Libijskog rezima". Znas kad ce Libijci to da vide....

Nego, ne cini li vam se da Klintonka sve vise lici na Olbrajtovu?



Mislis ovako:



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Нешто ти пандркн'о линак ка слиКи.
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Pijanista

Ala se razvila diskusija o Hilari. Intrigantna zena, sta ces.