Savremeni fasizam

[Tromotorac]

Evo u stvari pravog primera nepravde u USofA. Ovakve stvare su mogle da se ocekuju od Slobe Milosevica, a ne odavde. Medjutim, danas je na vlasti Dear Leader Hope & Change, kao sto vam ja rekoh isti Sloba, samo za nove prilike.


Obama v. Toyota -- The California Connection
by Roger Hedgecock (more by this author)
Posted 02/19/2010 ET
Updated 02/19/2010 ET


The true character of the Obama jihad against Toyota shines through in the new campaign to force Toyota to keep the NUMMI plant in California open.

New United Motor Manufacturing Inc (NUMMI) started up in Fremont, California 25 years ago as a joint venture between GM and Toyota. A new board of directors was formed to bring Toyota manufacturing innovation and GM's desire to produce quality smaller cars together in a new plant Toyota agreed to UAW worker representation--the only Toyota plant in the U.S. to allow the UAW.

Last June, bankrupt GM pulled out. The UAW did not object. The joint venture was over. Toyota had opened a total of six manufacturing plants in the U.S.and did not need the product from NUMMI. In August 2009 Toyota announced that the NUMMI plant would close in March 2010 and nearly 4700 workers would be laid off.

California politicians raised noisy objections. Sen. Dianne Feinstein and all Bay Area elected officials pleaded for Toyota to reconsider. Even the Democrats began to notice that the loss of manufacturing jobs in California was beginning to register with voters, and, perhaps even more importantly, reduce tax revenues in a state where overspending revenues is a way of life. The state offered new subsidies to save the jobs. Toyota said no.

President Obama took office and promptly reversed the Bush decision to not use TARP money to bail out GM and Chrysler. The President who said he did not get elected to run car companies started to do just that--not only bailing out the car companies but restructuring them as joint ventures between the Government and the UAW with new executives and Boards of Directors picked by the new owners.

A side effect of the Obama takeover was the creation of a huge (and largely unnoticed) conflict of interest for the Federal Government.

The Government which had acted as a objective, regulatory referee in vehicle safety for 40 years, was now in the car business itself. With Obama, government regulatory power, union contracts, and corporate profit merged.

At the same time, Obama's Stimulus Bill promised jobs through government spending which bloated government staffs but produced higher unemployment in the private sector.

A CBS/N.Y.Times poll last week found that only 6% of American adults believe that the $787 Billion "Stimulus" had created any new jobs. Curiously, the same CBS/N.Y.Times poll, on the 25th anniversary of the death of Elvis found that 7% of American adults believe Elvis is still alive. By the CBS/N.Y. Times reckoning, more Americans believe Elvis is still alive than believe that Obama has created jobs with the "Stimulus" Bill !.

With so negative a public impression of his performance on the economy, the President acted to blame the Republicans for blocking "Stimulus II" and took advantage of real defects in Toyota cars to attack Toyota.

Toyota's six U.S. plants--all in red states, all non-union--were building the best selling cars in the U.S. Sudden Unintended Acceleration (SUA) complaints against Toyota and other manufacturers (including GM) had been around since the car makers went to electronic accelerator controls. The NHTSA couldn't find the "ghost in the wire".

A tragic accident which killed a family in a Lexus sedan was attributed to SUA. Something was wrong and it needed to be fixed. But, in true Rahm Emanuel style, SUA became a "crisis" to advance the agenda.

Toyota's first "fix" was not good enough. All Toyota cars must be recalled. The Toyota plants must stop production. Toyota dealers must stop selling cars. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, in testimony before Congress, urged Toyota owners to "stop driving their cars".Never had a car maker been subjected to such a hurricane of government action.

The regulatory "referee" had the ammunition to shut down a competitor.

Another part of the Obama Alliance--the Trial Laywers--also swung into action. At last count, 44 class action lawsuits have been filed against Toyota and its U.S. dealers.

Is keeping open NUMMI the price Toyota must pay to stay in business in the U.S. ?

This past week, the leadership of the AFL-CIO, the Teamsters, and the UAW converged on Fremont, California in the Local 2244 union hall near the NUMMI plant to start a campaign to keep the plant open or drive Toyota out of the country.

"Killing American jobs won't help Toyota regain public support or revive its sales. Toyota must reverse its decision," said AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka in a video hookup.

"You are going to see an attack on Toyota that is unprecedented," promised Rome Aloise, a top Teamster official.

Promising to picket every California Toyota dealer and 50 top dealerships across the country, UAW vice-president Bob King vowed "if they close the NUMMI plant, we union people will not buy another Toyota."

Since the cause of the closure of the plant was GM pulling out of the joint venture in the first place, Obama and the Unions appear to be fusing government power with union power under the guise of "consumer protection" and "saving jobs" in a campaign to destroy a non-union, red state private sector competitor.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35698.

[nobody_]

Neka ga, neka Obame... NIKADA bolje nisam prolazio u USA/CAD, mlatim parice i desnicom i levicom, nikada nisam verovao da mogu da zaradim prvi $$$ milion USD...  xjap

A eto, sve se moze kada se hoce, i kada sposobnim ljudima kao ja (Komunista koji veruje u Isusa Hrista) Obama otvori vrata opportunity-a i kaze: izvol'te...  :mrgreen:

(ziveo americki Komunizam, long live...)  :idea:

_nobody_

[slawen]

By the CBS/N.Y. Times reckoning, more Americans believe Elvis is still alive than believe that Obama has created jobs with the "Stimulus" Bill !.

Шта су ти тејлеси...
То је бре зрело за капитализам путиновског типа. "Ка чему и тежимо....."

[vbo man]

"Only 21% Say U.S. Government Has Consent of the Governed ... Those with the Lowest Incomes are the Most Skeptical" Guest post by George Washington in Naked Capitalism

   A new Rasmussen poll finds:

   Seventy-one percent (71%) of all voters now view the federal government as a special interest group, and 70% believe that the government and big business typically work together in ways that hurt consumers and investors.That helps explain why 75% of voters are angry at the policies of the federal government, and 63% say it would be better for the country if most members of Congress are defeated this November...

   In his new book, In Search of Self-Governance, Scott Rasmussen observes that the American people are "united in the belief that our political system is broken, that politicians are corrupt, and that neither major political party has the answers." He adds that "the gap between Americans who want to govern themselves and the politicians who want to rule over them may be as big today as the gap between the colonies and England during the 18th century."

   *

   Sixty percent (60%) of voters think that neither Republican political leaders nor Democratic political leaders have a good understanding of what is needed today. Thirty-five percent (35%) say Republicans and Democrats are so much alike that an entirely new political party is needed to represent the American people.

   Nearly half of all voters believe that people randomly selected from the phone book could do as good a job as the current Congress. xrofl

   ...

   As Rasmussen notes:

       Those who earn more than $100,000 a year are more narrowly divided on the question, but those with lower incomes overwhelming reject the notion that today's government has the consent from which to derive its just authority. Those with the lowest incomes are the most skeptical.

Seventy-one percent (71%) of all voters now view the federal government as a special interest group

They are finally seeing light!

Nearly half of all voters believe that people randomly selected from the phone book could do as good a job as the current Congress. xrofl

Sad ce Sara...ona bash ko da su je izvlachili iz telefonskog imenika xuss a nisu...vec sa izbora za miss :?

[zagor te nej]

Da, jadna Toyota:

Family Killed in Santee Car Crash 911 Call


NBC San Diego - Suspected Sudden Acceleration kills 4 in San Diego


Runaway Toyota's - Toyota accused of concealing & destroying evidence

[Hate mail]

Toyota accused of concealing & destroying evidence

Sta, odneli su limariju na brzinu u Kinu da se pretopi, kao ono WTC steel onomad?

[slawen]

Sad si i ti nash'o da poredish frogs i grandmothers....

[alan ford]

zar ne moze da se nagazi na kocnicu i malo uspori ili jednostavno izvadi kljuc? Da ne pominjem izbacivanje iz brzine i sl.?

[slawen]

U USA se teraju automatici.

[Daisy]

i automatik moze da se izbaci iz brzine

[slawen]

Al' tek kad se zaustavi, koliko se ja secam jednog Mercedesa sa kojim sam imao veoma prijatna iskustva. Osim one poluge za spushtanje kurcheve rucne za koju sam mislio da je piksla za levoruke.
Ja vozim Reno i njemu ne moze da se "ugasi" motor dok se auto potpuno ne zaustavi. Pretpostavljam da je isto kod Toyote. Pitacu prijatelja koji se udao u Moskvi, pa mu zena kupila Toyotu da ide na posao.
Imao sam i ja ovaj problem koji navodi gore riba komentator sa "patosnicama" koje najashu pedalu gasa ili kvachila, ali se onda malko sagnesh i rukom ih vratis nazad, ako nisi debil. Plus ona kaze da se te all weather (gumenije) ne stavljaju u auta za rentiranje.
Meni su zanimljiva imena ovog sveta koji izginuo. Cerka Mahala?

Koliko se ja u te stvari razumem, Leksuse (i to bele) teraju advokati, ne pendrekashi. Mozda je bilo napakovano nekom drugom da izgine, pa se ovaj nesrecnik zatekao. Jebiga, kad navik'o narod da zivi iznad svojih mogucnosti.
To im se u Yugu nikad ne bi desilo.

[slawen]

Спикинг оф вич: пандурева жена је рекла да им ни кочнице не раде?
Јел' има тај модел Лексуса посебну ручну или се активира ножном педалом, а мењач мети у П, као код већине аутоматика?

Много ми то сумњиво.
Кочнице неће да откажу ако се заглави педала гаса...

[slawen]

Taчно нема ручну:

[slawen]

A evo i o izbacivanju iz brzine i resto: Кликни овде

Najbolji je ovaj komentar: "A big red PANIC button is in our future. It will simultaneously engage neutral, kill power to the engine, and call 911."

[nobody_]

Pitacu prijatelja koji se udao u Moskvi, pa mu zena kupila Toyotu da ide na posao.

Mozes mene da udash u Moskvi?  xrofl Meni ne treba Toyota, Yugi mi je sasvim dovoljan u miraz.  xjap

_nobody_

[alan ford]

Taчно нема ручну:

rucna je ona papucica sa leve strane.
sve je elektronika, a menjac moze da se izbaci iz brzine u 'neutral' iliti na ler.

[Tromotorac]

Da, jadna Toyota:

Family Killed in Santee Car Crash 911 Call


NBC San Diego - Suspected Sudden Acceleration kills 4 in San Diego


Runaway Toyota's - Toyota accused of concealing & destroying evidence

Poenta jeste, USofA jeste sada i igrac i sudija. Kao vecinski vlasnik GM i Chryslera, koji su imali more recall-a ali nikad nisu obustavili prodaju automobila, kada vrsi pritisak na Toyotu, stvara se osnovana sumnja da nije u pitanju samo javna bezbednost u saobracaju.

Dodaj na tome uticaj sindikata na ovu vlast, i njihov privilegovan tretman, sve deluje jos mutnije kad se radi o pritisku na firmu koja je na meti sindikata.

Sto ne znaci da je sve ovo jeste ili nije istina sa Toyotom.

[slawen]

Taчно нема ручну:

rucna je ona papucica sa leve strane.
sve je elektronika, a menjac moze da se izbaci iz brzine u 'neutral' iliti na ler.

Стисне се истовремено та мала и папуча главне кочнице, јел' да?
Чекај, бре, зар свако ауто не мора да има главну, помоћну и паркирну кочницу, од којих контроле (механизми активирања) најмање две од те три морају да буду одвојени?
А штостиче мењача, значи може, иако овај баја Лајонс из Тојоте каже да то понекад збуњује људи.

Мене одушевило што сам из оног чланка који сам линковао сазнао како ја могу да угасим ауто у вожњи (држиш притиснуто непрекидно пар секунди, или стиснеш заредом три пута). С тим што ми не пада на памет то да пробам. Знам, на пример, да не може да се угаси ни кад ауто стоји (а камоли у покрету) ако извадим картицу. Али откад сам то пробао, кад год укључујем прскалицу задњег стакла, прска и напред.

[slawen]

Pitacu prijatelja koji se udao u Moskvi, pa mu zena kupila Toyotu da ide na posao.

Mozes mene da udash u Moskvi?  xrofl Meni ne treba Toyota, Yugi mi je sasvim dovoljan u miraz.  xjap

_nobody_

Јел' те занимају само девојке, или може и нека половњача?
Да видим са овим пријатељем чиме тренутно располаже. Знам да им је венчана кума или тако нешто рођена (пра)унука оног Калињина. Али мислим да је већ букирана.

[nobody_]

Јел' те занимају само девојке, или може и нека половњача?
Да видим са овим пријатељем чиме тренутно располаже. Знам да им је венчана кума или тако нешто рођена (пра)унука оног Калињина. Али мислим да је већ букирана.

Sve zavisi sta donosi u miraz... Ako donosi Yugija, moze devojka, ako mercedesa 500SL, moze i polovnjaca, ako donosi u miraz stan na Njevskom Prospektu, moze babushka od 100nu ljeta...  xrofl

_nobody_

[alan ford]

Taчно нема ручну:

rucna je ona papucica sa leve strane.
sve je elektronika, a menjac moze da se izbaci iz brzine u 'neutral' iliti na ler.

Стисне се истовремено та мала и папуча главне кочнице, јел' да?
Чекај, бре, зар свако ауто не мора да има главну, помоћну и паркирну кочницу, од којих контроле (механизми активирања) најмање две од те три морају да буду одвојени?

ne tu papicucu stisnes samo za sebe i kocnice hvataju. Slicno je imao i Reno 4 s tim sto je sa leve strane imao rucku koju povuces.
Ne znam da li je isti ili odvojeni sistem kocenja. pretpostavljam da je odvojen.

[Pijanista]

ja imam toyotu automatik, moze da se izbaci u ler u voznji. A "rucna" je na podu, sasvim levo, pritiska se nogom.
Ocekujem da me zovu u servis za popravku. Ako prestanem da se javljam, popijte nesto za moju dusu.  xyxy

[alan ford]

ja imam toyotu [...]

cek sta bi, ti si se svojevremeno hvalio kako zivis u Vankuveru, kako nemas auto niti zelis da ga imas, gradski saobracaj radi kao sat itd. prevarili mangupi?

ja se secam u NYC-ju sam imao auto, a nije mi trebao i samo me je kostao na papreno skopu osiguranje, kazne za parkiranje, garaze, a prakticno i kada sam hteo brze i lakse sam isao metroom nego kolima. Osim vikendima povremeno do nekih daljih mesta ali da nisam imao auto mogao sam da uzmem taksi svaki put i na kraju bi mi i ostalo love...

[Hate mail]

U Njujorku je najbolje imati sofera a ne auto.

[miskop]

Hahahaha...."U njujorku je najbolje da imas sofera i limuzinu".

A u Sijetlu ?

Lud li si talibancino jedna supacka...

Hoces da kazes da uspevas da odvojis jedno 6000 dolara
svaki mesec za tu svrhu ??

Ti, konjoidu jedan imas (preko firme) ugovor sa nekom taxi
sluzbom, da vas nesposobne, tu i tamo preveze negde uz
popust od 20% i onda seres ovde kako imas limo i sofera ??

"Znas...DANAS je najbolje, ako zivis u Bostonu, da imas licni
aerodrom, avion i pilota".

Jos bolje bi bilo ako bi imao nekoliko.

[Hate mail]

Taxi?? Bljak.

Moj sofer ima Lincoln Towncar.

[Pijanista]

cek sta bi, ti si se svojevremeno hvalio kako zivis u Vankuveru, kako nemas auto niti zelis da ga imas, gradski saobracaj radi kao sat itd. prevarili mangupi?

Molim? Zivim u Vankuveru od 96-te, kola sam kupio 1.5 godine kasnije, ali sam jedno vreme putovao prevozom, lakse mi bilo. Sad uglavnom idem kolima. Zavisi od relacije, prevoz moze da bude duplo brzi ili cetiri puta sporiji.  Da nisi nesto pobrkao?

[zagor te nej]

Da, jadna Toyota:

Family Killed in Santee Car Crash 911 Call


NBC San Diego - Suspected Sudden Acceleration kills 4 in San Diego


Runaway Toyota's - Toyota accused of concealing & destroying evidence

Poenta jeste, USofA jeste sada i igrac i sudija. Kao vecinski vlasnik GM i Chryslera, koji su imali more recall-a ali nikad nisu obustavili prodaju automobila, kada vrsi pritisak na Toyotu, stvara se osnovana sumnja da nije u pitanju samo javna bezbednost u saobracaju.

Dodaj na tome uticaj sindikata na ovu vlast, i njihov privilegovan tretman, sve deluje jos mutnije kad se radi o pritisku na firmu koja je na meti sindikata.

Sto ne znaci da je sve ovo jeste ili nije istina sa Toyotom.

Privilegovan tretman? Ova vlast je sindikatima uzela vise nego ijedna pre nje ikad.

[Tromotorac]

 :shock:

Da li bi mogao da nam objasnis kako to?

[Tromotorac]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/33248.html

Toyota: Dems 'not industry friendly'
By: Jake Sherman
February 21, 2010 05:20 PM EST

Internal Toyota documents derided the Obama administration and Democratic Congress as "activist" and "not industry friendly," a revelation that comes days before the giant automaker's top executives testify on Capitol Hill amid a giant recall.

According to a presentation obtained under subpoena by the House Oversight and Government Relations committee, Toyota referred to the "changing political environment" as one of its main challenges and anticipated a "more challenging regulatory" environment under the Obama administration's purview.

This document, in addition to piles of other records, will be front and center this week as the Japanese automaker girds to face lawmakers hungry for answers about a recall that has the company teetering.

Upwards of 8 million cars have been recalled in the U.S. and worldwide, amid reports of Toyota's vehicles accelerating rapidly. The problems have turned political, as the company has shuttered some American factories, potentially resulting in layoffs.

The oversight committee, which is led by Democrat Ed Towns of New York and Republican Darrell Issa of California, will seek to discover if Toyota was forthright in disclosing problems with rapid acceleration – and if the government was responsible and quick in investigating such complaints.

Toyota has launched an image rehabilitation campaign on Capitol Hill, and its top lobbyist has sent emails to Congressional aides in an attempt to shape its image amid this crisis.

Committee aides say the presentation, which was obtained by POLITICO, gives the clearest view into the minds of Toyota executives.

Aides believe the presentation was an explanatory slideshow prepared to explain the inner-workings of Toyota's Washington lobbying operations. It includes a responsibility flow chart, in addition to resources the office calls upon, including The Brookings Institution and the Chamber of Commerce.

The slideshow is titled "Toyota Washington, DC" and the cover sheet is labeled "Yoshi Inaba" – the president of Toyota North America, who is slated to testify.

It is a peek into how Toyota executives view the American political environment.

The "Activist Administration & Congress – increasing laws & regulations" is listed as one of "Toyota Challenges," as is "Massive government support for Detroit automakers."

The July 2009 presentation also says the Department of Transportation and National Highway Transportation Safety Administration "under Obama administration" is "not industry friendly," and anticipates a "more challenging regulatory and enforcement environment."

It says the NHTSA "new team has less understanding of engineering issues and are primarily focused on legal issues."

"While the administration may have changed, the bureaucracy itself has not and we must ensure that government regulators give every possible consumer concern its due diligence," said Republican Oversight spokesman Kurt Bardella.


© 2010 Capitol News Company, LLC

[amans]

Evo u stvari pravog primera nepravde u USofA. Ovakve stvare su mogle da se ocekuju od Slobe Milosevica, a ne odavde.

Kada dodje dan i kada konacno shvatimo da je Milosevic u krvnom srodstvu sa ovima "ovde", da je ono sto se tamo dogadjalo, ono sto se "ovde" dogadja....moci ce da se nesto promeni i "tamo" i "ovde".

Milosevic (et al.) je samo pod drugom etiketom radio "tamo"ono sto je "ovde" uobicajena radnja... On je sa komunizmom, socijalizmom imao veze koliko i ja sa Tutankamonom.

Jednom rekoh nekom onih davnih dana, kad mi je taj neko rekao, pa Milosevic je komunista--rekoh onda tom liku, mogu i ja da kazem da sam Merilin Monro. Pa sta? To znaci da jesam, posto se izdajem za istu hehehe

[Tromotorac]

Sloba je bio socijalista, kao sto je i Obama socijalista. To sto Slobu nisu voleli ovde jeste zato sto je bio bitanga koja je izbacivala njihove ambasodore, izazivala ih na prolecne radove itd.. da je bio igrac, Klinton ga ne bi tukao.

[amans]

Sloba je bio socijalista, kao sto je i Obama socijalista.

lepo si ovo rekao...hehehe

[zagor te nej]

:shock:

Da li bi mogao da nam objasnis kako to?

Sindikati zaposlenih u auto industriji su se odrekli bukvalno svega sto je predstavljalo teret velikoj trojci - od plata, broja zaposlenih, preko penzija, zdravstvenog osiguranja penzionera, ko ga i koliko placa i garantuje, do budalastina tipa jobs banks i slicnog. Nijedna, ali nijedna republikanska vlast ikad nije uspela da u ovoj meri saseche  dilove potpisane sa sindikatima u proteklih nekoliko decenija. Konacno, sindikati u auto industriji vise nisu u poziciji da otimanjem od kompanija dobijaju najvecu garantovanu korist, nego su stakeholders, itekako zainteresovani za zdravlje i profitabilnost firme za koju rade - kao recimo u Nemackoj.

Milosevic je bio gangster. Obama je kilometar debelo u desno u svega sto se u bilo kom delu sveta u kom znaju kako se speluje socijalizam smatra socijalizmom.

[Tromotorac]

United Airlines je corp. sa vecinskim vlasnistvom nekoliko sindikata. Sindikalno vlasnistvo nad 'sredstvima za proizvodnju' nicim ne cini kompaniju sposobnijom, nego kad pregovara preko stola sa sindikatima. Navedi mi jednu firmu koja je uspesna zahvaljujuci sindikatima koji su njeni (vecinski?) vlasnici.


Obama jeste socijalista. Nije full flaged, jer mu ovde politicke prilike ne dozvoljavaju. Bilo koji socijalista se uvek pruzi koliko je moguce. Pogledaj mu sastav administracije, pa ces videti gde je na ideoloskom spektrumu.

[slawen]

Обама је вонаби Путин.

[amans]

:shock:

Da li bi mogao da nam objasnis kako to?

Milosevic je bio gangster. Obama je kilometar debelo u desno u svega sto se u bilo kom delu sveta u kom znaju kako se speluje socijalizam smatra socijalizmom.

masala (s kao sisarka), o tome ja pricam decenijama... on nije prismrdeo ni socijalizmu ni komunizmu....on i njegova ekipa su bili gospoda robber barrons, uz malo mimikrije (sto su odsljakali alal vera).

Nema razlike izmedju njega i Karnegija, Rokfelera, Vanderbilta i ostale svojte (sem sto je bio nas), Kenedija i AlKaponea (s tim sto je poslednji bio nesposobnjakovic i nije znao kako da glazurom prelije govna).

da pripomognem, iz Wikipedije:

"Robber baron is a term revived in the 19th century United States for businessmen and bankers who dominated respective industries and amassed huge personal fortunes, typically by anti-competitive or unfair business practices. The term may now relate to any businessman or banker who used questionable business practices to become powerful or wealthy."

[amans]

zanimljiv clanak:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/business/economy/21unemployed.html?em

a najbolji deo je na kraju:


"I never thought I'd be in the position where I had to go to a food bank," Ms. Eisen said. But there she is, standing in the parking lot of the Calvary Chapel church, chatting with a half-dozen women, all waiting to enter the Bread of Life Food Pantry.

When her name is called, she steps into a windowless alcove, where a smiling woman hands her three bags of groceries: carrots, potatoes, bread, cheese and a hunk of frozen meat.

"Haven't we got a lot to be thankful for?" Ms. Eisen asks.

For one thing, no pinto beans.

"I've got 10 bags of pinto beans," she says. "And I have no clue how to cook a pinto bean."


a ja se mislim, e budalo jedna, kad budes mastala o tri zrna pinto beans u klin corbi.......

[slawen]

masala (s kao sisarka), o tome ja pricam decenijama... on nije prismrdeo ni socijalizmu ni komunizmu....on i njegova ekipa su bili gospoda robber barrons, uz malo mimikrije (sto su odsljakali alal vera).

Нажалост криво.
Рахметли Цобе је био један глуп и ретко неспособан алави сељак.
Лапање париња није био његов први избор.
Прво је хтео да бидне генија.

[Hate mail]

Upravo.

Lapanje para je prva i osnovna motivacija njegove zestoko poremecene, fanaticne, primitivne i infantilne "kotule" (sto bi rekao moj cale). :mrgreen:

[Tromotorac]

Sta onda reci o Srbima koji 15+ godina primala na njega takvog glupog i nesposobnog?

[Pijanista]

"kotule"

Jel "kotula" ono sto se u moje selo zove "kalastura"?

[amans]

Sta onda reci o Srbima koji 15+ godina primala na njega takvog glupog i nesposobnog?

da sta reci o njima, isto tako sta reci o onima koji su njega, tako glupog iskoristili i naveli vodu na svoju vodenicu, tj. pare u svoj dzep.

Oni su znali sta rade.

Ima li tu neke paralele sa, recimo..... papa Bushom???

[Hate mail]

Kotula je suknja, i.e. zena, zenturaca. Koristi se u Cnoj Gori a izgleda i u Sumadiji.

[Pijanista]

Znaci bio sam tu negde, u pravu :evil:

[tarana]

Sta onda reci o Srbima koji 15+ godina primala na njega takvog glupog i nesposobnog?

srpsko iskustvo s demokratijom je, ko kad bi homo erektusu dao traktor i reko, to ti je dobro za 'ranu...
i ono malo kršteni erektusa, nije moglo da izađe na kraj s komisijama za prebrojavanje glasova.

[zagor te nej]

Toyota May Not Know Cause of Most Acceleration Cases (Update1)
2010-02-24 05:59:50.305 GMT


     (Updates share price in fifth paragraph. See {EXT2 <GO>} for coverage of Toyota recalls.)

By Angela Greiling Keane and Alan Ohnsman
     Feb. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Toyota Motor Corp. may not know the cause of unintended acceleration in as many as 70 percent of reported incidents after recalling about 8 million vehicles, the company's U.S. sales chief told a congressional committee.
     The recalls to fix accelerator pedals and replace floor mats will "not totally" mitigate sudden acceleration in Toyota vehicles, linked to 34 deaths, Jim Lentz, president of Toyota's U.S. sales unit, told a House Energy and Commerce panel yesterday in Washington.
    Lentz's testimony at times belied Toyota's image as an automaker obsessed with quality and customers, portraying instead an "embarrassed" company that failed to communicate globally about safety questions and waited for directions from Japan that were slow in coming.
     "I'm sure all Americans are shocked to learn" that the company didn't share defect information internally and that "this system of quality control that Toyota represents to be at the heart of their corporation" doesn't reflect reality, Representative Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, told Lentz.
     Toyota shares fell 1.9 percent to 3,260 as of 2:56 p.m. in Tokyo. The automaker has lost $35.2 billion in market value since Jan. 21, when it recalled about 2.3 million vehicles in the U.S. to fix sticking accelerator pedals.

                        'Ignored Pleas'

    Toyota "all but ignored pleas from consumers" to examine complaints of sudden unintended acceleration, said Representative Bart Stupak, a Michigan Democrat and chairman of the subcommittee holding yesterday's hearing. A consultant's study relied on by Toyota that found no problems with vehicles'
electronic controls had "numerous shortcomings," Stupak said.
     "They misled the American public by saying that they and other independent sources had thoroughly examined the electronics system," Stupak, the subcommittee's chairman, said at the first congressional hearing looking at Toyota's recalls and their handling by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. "Toyota and NHTSA have a lot of explaining to do to the American people, to consumers and dealers."
     Lentz agreed with some of the criticism, saying "a weakness in our system has been, within this company, that we didn't do a very good job of sharing information across the globe."

                      President to Testify

     Toyota President Akio Toyoda, scheduled to testify today before another congressional panel, is linking the defects to the expansion that made the company the world's largest automaker.
     "We pursued growth over the speed at which we were able to develop our people and our organization, and we should sincerely be mindful of that," Toyoda said in remarks prepared for his appearance before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. "I regret that this has resulted in the safety issues described in the recalls."
     A Toyota internal document sent to the House oversight panel and dated July 6, 2009, said the company saved $100 million through a "negotiated" vehicle recall. The document, obtained Feb. 21, showed the company outlining accomplishments described as "Wins for Toyota," including the savings.

                       Received Subpoenas

     Toyota said in a regulatory filing this week that it received subpoenas from a federal grand jury in the Southern District of New York on Feb. 8 and the Los Angeles office of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission on Feb. 19 for documents related to potential product defects.
     The recalls involve fixing or reshaping gas pedals that Toyota says may become stuck or snagged by floor mats. The company has said it has found no evidence linking electronic controls to bursts of acceleration, and Lentz repeated that yesterday.
    Under questioning by Stupak, Lentz, whose unit is based in Torrance, California, agreed it was "probably fair to say" the company may not know the cause of unintended acceleration in as many as 70 percent of customer complaints to Toyota. Those cases didn't involve vehicles recalled by the automaker.
     David Gilbert, an automotive-technology professor at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, said in testimony that he was able to isolate weaknesses in Toyota's electronic throttles that aren't found in units from other automakers.
     "None were quite as easy as the Toyota system to crack,"
Gilbert said.

                        'Right Questions'

     Asked why Toyota wasn't able to figure this out, Gilbert said, "Maybe they didn't ask the right questions."
     Gilbert's testimony is likely to "shake" Toyota, Joan Claybrook, a former NHTSA chief, who will testify at today's House oversight panel hearing, said in an interview.
   "Either they're covering up what they know about the electronics, or they don't know and they look foolish,"
Claybrook said of the automaker. "If they don't know, the question is why?"
     Gilbert is being paid for his work by Safety Research & Strategies Inc. of Rehoboth, Massachusetts, a research firm that gathers data from NHTSA and other sources for plaintiff's attorneys and consumers. Gilbert said during his questioning that he contacted the group because the reports about Toyota's electronic system "piqued my curiosity."

                          $150 an Hour

     Sean Kane, president of Safety Research, said he's paid Gilbert $1,800, and reimburses him at a rate of $150 an hour.
     Toyota has freed up "unlimited" funds for its own tests from consultant Exponent Inc. to review electronics on behalf of the automaker, Lentz said. The company was able to duplicate some of Gilbert's results in tests the night before the hearing, Lentz said.
        Lawmakers heard from Rhonda Smith of Sevierville, Tennessee, about a 2006 incident. She said the Lexus ES350 she was driving accelerated to about 100 miles per hour (161 kilometers per hour), "with the engine still revving up and down," for about six miles. She was able to turn the engine off after the car slowed down, avoiding a crash and injury.
     Smith and her husband Eddie said they contacted Toyota several times about the incident, with the company responding in writing that "when properly maintained, the brakes will always override the accelerator," she told the panel.

                         'Shame on You'

     "Shame on you Toyota for being so greedy," Smith said.
"And shame on you NHTSA for not doing your job. I hope that Toyota and NHTSA will be held accountable for their poor decisions that have cost some people their lives."
     "Listening to Mrs. Smith, I feel embarrassed," Lentz said.
"I was embarrassed to hear the story."
     NHTSA may be "too cozy" with the auto industry, Stupak said. The agency also may have focused too much on mechanical causes in response to reports of sudden unintended acceleration rather than on potential electronic causes, he said.
     "There is no evidence that Toyota or the government agency, NHTSA, took a serious look at the possibility that electronic defects could be causing the problem," said Representative Henry Waxman, a California Democrat who is chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.
     "Addressing this problem will require legislation,"
Waxman said. "Carmakers have entered the electronic era, but NHTSA seems stuck in a mechanical mindset."
     U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, whose department oversees NHTSA, told the committee the regulatory agency is increasing its staff, and has the expertise needed.
     "We're going into the weeds on the electronics," LaHood said. "I commit to you we're going to do that."
      NHTSA has two electrical engineers among its 125 engineers and plans to hire one more, LaHood said. The agency can bring on additional outside expertise as needed, he said.
     Toyota will install advanced brake-override systems in all new models beginning in 2011, Lentz told the committee. The company will also retrofit seven current models with the software fix, which slows a vehicle if it receives signals both to accelerate and brake, he said.

[tarana]

to s tojotom deluje prilično prosto.
skreši troškove di god možeš, uzmi štap i kanap i ugradi šta stigneš.
pa je bilo
-vidi ovo je prošlo! aj da skrešemo još di gođ!
-vidi i ovo je prošlo!

čekaj bre majmune! si mislio da će BAŠ sve da prođe?

[Tromotorac]

Sve je to OK, ali USofA je suvlasnik GM i Chryslera; dokle god je tako oni su i igrac i sudija u utakmici, sto je po prirodi fasisticki.

[slawen]

Фашизам је по дефиницији утилитарно медиокритетство.
Ту ми Тојота чучи добро исто ко и VW.