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Quote from: Pijanista on January 11, 2010, 08:01:46 PM
ali tad sam govorio engleski ko Blaz Sliskovic.

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Pijanista

Aj tinks da sad govorim bolje.

baggio

We can not change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand - Randy Pauch

vbo man

Daily Telegraf...legitimno :mrgreen:


QuoteSwine flu 'a false pandemic' to sell vaccines, expert says | The Daily Telegraph

    HE swine flu scare was a "false pandemic" led by drugs companies that stood to make billions from vaccines, a leading health expert said.

    Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, claimed major firms organized a "campaign of panic" to put pressure on the World Health Organization (WHO) to declare a pandemic, UK tabloid The Sun reports.

    He believes it is, "one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century", and has called for an inquiry.

    An emergency debate on the issue will be held by the Council of Europe later this month.

    The Council of Europe covers 47 European countries and seeks to develop common and democratic principles between the nations.
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

vbo man

I josh...
QuoteWas swine flu a hoax? - Gulf Stream Blues

   European health ministers are set to hold an emergency inquiry into whether pharmaceutical companies influenced government decisions to purchase vast stockpiles of unnecessary swine flu vaccines. The inquiry comes as European governments have announced they are being forced to sell the millions of excess doses they ordered from the companies during the height of the Swine Flu Panic.

  This week Gerrmany, France and the Netherlands announced they would sell the excess H1N1 drug supplies they purchased. The revelations about how much those governments spent on the vaccine has caused a public outcry, particularly in France. The country had placed orders to spend €869 million on 94 million vaccine doses, even though the population of France is 65 million. Only 5 million French people have been vaccinated. On Monday the country announced it wanted to cancel 50 million of those orders. The UK is also in talks to cancel orders for an estimated 20 million doses of vaccine, though the government won't reveal the total size of what it ordered. In the response to the public furore over this huge public expenditure during an economic crisis, the Council of Europe is going to debate a resolution later this month accusing the drug companies of pressuring public officials to order the huge stockpiles for their own financial gain, exaggerating the risks of the flu. Perhaps most seriously, the resolution calls for an investigation into whether the drug companies influenced the decision by the World Health Organisation to declare Swine Flu a global pandemic, which in turn activated the huge contracts governments had signed with the drug companies.


Conspiracy theory...yeah right!
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

vbo man

Ovo MOZE da bude conspiracy theory...al ne mora

Quotewho's an owner of the company (Gilead Sciences Inc.) that makes Tamiflu? Donald Rumsfeld. No conspiracy - just business.

Plus neka razmishljanja:

QuoteI doubt it was just Aspartame - if it was Rumsfeld, it was probably more evil than that.

The Swine Flu vaccine was also promoted heavily by Baxter. I don't think Rumsfeld is directly associated with Baxter - only with the Gilead people and Tamiflu. (Which seems to be largely ineffective in honest testing, and has been banned in Japan for teens because of psychological side effects.)

I couldn't - and still can't - make rational sense of the hysteria from the WHO last year. Considering that this game has been played twice now, with significant government expense - first with Bird Flu, now with Swine Flu - it's done massive damage to the credibility of the WHO as a trustworthy organisation.
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Jelence

I sta ti iz toga zakljucujes, vbo?
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vbo man

Isto shto i Daily Telegraf...samo sam ja zakljuchila pre njih tako da im to pisanje dodje ko plagijat :mrgreen:
The light at the end of the tunnel is the train.

alan ford

Quote from: Jelence on November 25, 2009, 02:04:33 PM
Jel vakcina protiv svinjskog gripa valja il ne valja?

ajde da se vratimo na pocetak. Evo sta nadjoh na B92

QuoteVakcinisan svaki peti Amerikanac

16. januar 2010. | 18:47 | Izvor: FoNet

Vašington -- Svaki peti Amerikanac primio je vakcinu protiv gripa A/H1N1, piše u prvom detaljnom izveštaju američke vlade o suzbijanju pandemijskog gripa.
Procena se zasniva na dva telefonska istraživanja koja je tokom decembra prošle godine i tokom januara ove godine sprovela američka vlada, preneli su mediji. Prema toj proceni, vakcinu koja bi trebalo da ih zaštiti od zaraze virusom A/H1N1, primio je 61 milion Amerikanaca.
Portparol Centra za kontrolu i prevenciju bolesti, Ričard Kvartarone, je rekao da je 20 odsto vakcinisane populacije "velik uspeh".
Među vakcinisanima je najviše onih koji pripadaju rizičnim grupama, kao što su deca, trudnice, hronični bolesnici i starije osobe.

U periodu od sredine novembra, obolelo je 50 miliona Amerikanaca, a preminulo je oko 10.000.

ovo boldovano mi se cini sustinom. Dakle od 50m oko 10k je umrlo iliti jedan u 5k sto mi deluje prilicno i ne bas bezazleno kao obican grip. Cudi me posle ovakvih brojeva da se narod u Poljskoj, Srbiji, itd tako nerado vakcinise.
koji su podatci za Srbiju, zna li neko?

slawen

Quote from: alan ford on January 16, 2010, 09:41:54 PM

koji su podatci za Srbiju, zna li neko?
Има коме је посао да зна, шта се то тебе тиче!
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alan ford

malo sam googlao i evo sta kaze CDC (center for desease contorl)

QuoteIn the United States, on average 5% to 20% of the population gets the flu; more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from seasonal flu-related complications, and; about 36,000 people die from seasonal flu-related causes.

dakle ako amerika ima oko 300mil izmedju 1.5 i 6 ih se razboli svake godine i umre 36k sto je drasticno vise od H1N1. Srecom pa nije mutirao u nesto ozbiljnije kako su najavljivali.

Deda

Rešio.
Ja se sutra vakcinišem (protov gripa 1. put u životu) pa, ako me nema, da znate šta je.
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Deda

Uuu, yebote, nisu me špricali - vratilo me.
Pitaju za alergije i ja rek'o istinu: na peniclin i perje (može i odvojeno).
Tetka u belom kaže - ne može!
A šo?
Vakcina je na jajima pravljena!
Ša? I ova švajcarsko-miškova? Pa take su pravili onomad na Torlaku...
Ne, može, bve!
Ali nisam na jajca, nego na perje - i to gušče!
Tako nam rekli. Nećemo sada valjda s Vami da rizikujemo?
Onda se okrenem, obučem mantil i pođem.
I ponesem ličnu (onu novu, flastičnu) nekom, očiledno upaničenom, kolezi koji je popio špric i odma zbris'o... a lk zaboravio kod laptopa. Srećnik!  xnerd

alan ford

ja negde rekoh da sam citao da je jedan od razloga sto se vakcina nije mogla preko noci proizvesti i taj da je za svaku vakcinu potrebno zivo oplodjeno jaje.


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