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Started by Daisy, February 20, 2014, 03:51:23 PM

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Jesu pocistili onaj svinjac usred Kijeva?
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Ivan_D

Ne znam, ali treba za mesec dana da idem u Kiev na par dana pa cu ti reci.
Si bio ti negde nekad?  :mrgreen:
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.


Daisy

Više volim da mi se neko izveštačeno osmehne, nego da se spontano izdere na mene.



Ivan_D

Jedan momak sto ga Johnny i ja znamo ovde je novinar za jednu veliku americku kompaniju i upravo se vratio iz Ukrajine gde je bio preko mesec dana.
Johnny ga odmah iskoristio za input za newsletter koji pise:

QuoteI hated it and I was sο glad tο get hοme. As far as I am cοncerned Russia can take it. In the five weeks that I was there I was οnly able tο see οne persοn smile. That happened tο be οn the day οf the referendum and there was οne οld wοman whο actually had the audacity tο smile. I had absοlutely nο verbal cοntact with the military. They cοmpletely ignοred me. As fοr the peοple, I fοund them very dοwntrοdden and depressed. There was the sο called lοcal militia that was even wοrst. They were absοlutely a disgrace and a bunch οf drunken slοbs οstensibly trying tο maintain οrder. Imagine the lοwest οf the lοw. The infrastructure was hοrrible and the rοads are all in need οf repair. As fοr the pοlice, they tried tο shake us dοwn οn several οccasiοns and were very unpleasant. It was almοst cοmical. As fοr Dοnetsk, it was maybe the wοrst. It was awful and very depressing. Yalta and Sevastοpοl were alsο terrible and depressed. As fοr the referendum, 95% οf the peοple vοted Russian. It is pοssible because almοst everyοne we were in tοuch with was prο-Russian. And thοse whο didn't vοte οut οf prοtest were Ukrainian. Therefοre the numbers tallied are within the realm οf pοssibility. As fοr Kiev, at Maidan square, it was devastated. It was right οut οf a war mοvie. Hοwever, it shοuld be said that Kiev had a lοt mοre charm than the very Eastern part. It was a real city. All in all I hated my experiences there and I hοpe I never have tο gο back. It made me appreciate my hοme a lοt mοre. As far as I am cοncerned Putin can have it. It was a very unfriendly, inhοspitable envirοnment.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Hate mail

"Even worst"?

Gde nalazis ove luzere?...
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Ivan_D

'ajde, 'ajde, izdrzi jos danas. znam da je tesko. sutra ces na posao.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Hate mail

I know. And then some. There's a 25% raise in the cards next week.
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Mirabella

Quote from: Hate mail on March 30, 2014, 03:18:04 PM
"Even worst"?

Gde nalazis ove luzere?...

Covek stvarno ne zna gde da pocne sa ovim inputom za newsletter.  Dal' sadrzaj, dal' gramatika, dal' jezik...
Don't argue with an Idiot.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Ivan_D

Quote from: Hate mail on March 30, 2014, 06:17:58 PM
I know. And then some. There's a 25% raise in the cards next week.

Ok, and? How exactly does that translate into quality of life?
Ti jos nisi poceo da trosis novac sto si zaradio 2002. Taj sto ces zaraditi sledece nedelje neces nikad potrositi.

Where I'm in the process of spending novce koje cu zaraditi 2017  :| :mrgreen:
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Ivan_D

QuoteCovek stvarno ne zna gde da pocne sa ovim inputom za newsletter.  Dal' sadrzaj, dal' gramatika, dal' jezik...

Istina, Johnny nigger-rigged it. Sad sam proverio, Johnny je prepricao sta mu je ovaj Adam rekao. Time to dock his pay.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Hate mail

It's "whereas".  8-)
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Ivan_D

If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.


Hate mail

Time to stop hanging around 2-bit lazy punks.
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

E

Quote from: Ivan_D on March 30, 2014, 08:12:58 PM
xjap

Off topic

Ivane, sledeci post ce ti biti 5000-ti. U zdravlje  :)

Morala sam, setila sam se
http://znaksagite.com/7k/index.php?topic=3245.0

Ivan_D

Jeste sretni vi ovde. 5000 posts of bliss, joy and good intellectual exercise.
A dobio sam tako malo zauzvrat. 
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Mirabella

Don't argue with an Idiot.  He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience!

Pijanista

Quote from: Ivan_D on March 31, 2014, 05:32:11 AM
Jeste sretni vi ovde. 5000 posts of bliss, joy and good intellectual exercise.
A dobio sam tako malo zauzvrat. 

Takav si ti covek. Eto.

Pareski do

Quote from: Hate mail on March 30, 2014, 03:18:04 PM
"Even worst"?

Gde nalazis ove luzere?...

"95% οf the peοple vοted Russian"

(Improper) English as an n-th language...

Hate mail

To jos moze i da im prodje kao idiomatic expression (although it's a stretch)...
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Ivan_D

Johnny nosi na kartama poslednjih nedelju dana i to se odrazava na kvalitet njegovog pisanja. Sto vise nosi na kartama, to je manje motivisan da pise i samo otaljava.
Vratio sam mu cak 5 clanaka za Putinology.

QuoteIs He Making a Concession?
We refer once again to the venerable Mr. Putin. He has apparently pulled some of his troops massed on the border away from the Ukraine. It is apparently an extremely small amount percentage wise but significant in impact. It was enough that he deigned to call Mrs. Merkel and inform her of the news. The truth of the matter is that the number of people relocated amounts to barely one percent of the total army personnel located there. However, it is a small victory for the West and will probably be treated as such. It could be simply a token effort and therefore entirely insignificant or it could also mean that perhaps the sanctions are working and their effects are being felt. It is too soon to tell but we felt it was worth mentioning. It is interesting to note that Putin didn't call Obama. Was this perhaps because of his proximity to Germany or his estrangement with Obama? It could be a combination of both. It would be hard to imagine that Merkel and Putin have a worst working relationship than he does with Obama.
All in all we will consider this a small diplomatic victory. The battle is certainly not over and this is an extremely small concession. However, Putin is a tough foe who hates to concede anything. It is, of course, a question of pride and ego. We will watch the situation carefully and keep you updated.


QuoteAlaska and What Next
Did you hear about the movement currently going on in Alaska to secede from the United States? This is not a joke but actually is a current topic. Apparently there has been a petition with 30,000 signatures suggesting that Alaska secedes from the United Sates. We love it and it certainly is humorous. However, the reality is that there must be a 100,000 people signing in order for the petition to be valid. Will they get the acquired amount of people? Considering the number of people in the state, this should be a far stretch but then again, who knows?
In terms of precedent, the state of Texas tried to do the same. Shockingly their petition was turned down. We assume that if the necessary amount of people is gathered, the Alaskan petition will also be turned down. However, we should ask ourselves what about the timing? Was this a concerted Putin effort? Was this a plan implemented with a specific purpose? If so, what is he trying to prove? In some respects, it is really brilliant and definitely offers some comic relief. One thing we have to say is that you have to give the guy some credit. He has so much on his mind but he also has the time to do this. It is difficult to take the whole thing seriously but we have to ask ourselves where will this guy stop? What really is his plan? Would he like to rewrite the world map? We assume that the answer is yes and this is just his little way of applying a bit more pressure.

QuoteOnce Again to Sochi

Of course the Sochi Olympics were a huge topic for discussion last month. There was, of course, the huge price tag associated with the games. There was naturally a lot of speculation as to where the money went. We will never know the true answer but it is certainly worth thinking about. However, what we want to talk about here is the absolute waste of the money spent.
The Sochi games were not really about the games themselves but more about Putin. It really may have been more apt to call the last Olympics the Putin games. Do you agree? There are not any games during the last fifty years more associated with a person than these games. We would have to go all the way back to the Berlin games of 1936 to have a similar stamp. Do you understand what we are saying? In any case, Putin made it clear that Sochi was to be a showcase and that it was to become a winter paradise. Wow! Nothing could be further from the case. It now lies depressingly empty, a depressing memorial to utter waste. The so called 'luxury hotels' are bereft of any charm and lie empty. Many of the hotels were not even finished and the stray dogs that were not killed have begun to return. In one very short month this 'winter paradise' lies empty and neglected. It is really shocking and we would have expected more especially when considering the extravagant price tag. We don't really know or understand what Putin proved but we do know that he and his country could not afford such waste. It is a shame and will unfortunately go down in Olympic history as an utter joke. How do you all feel about this? Do you agree or is there another point of view that we should be looking at?
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Ivan_D

If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Pareski do

Quote from: Hate mail on April 01, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
To jos moze i da im prodje kao idiomatic expression (although it's a stretch)...

Idiomatic expression in the Projects perhaps.

I believe that he meant to write:

"95% οf the peοple who vοted were Russian"

Поред тога што је то недоказиво и готово сигурно нетачно.

Ivan_D

Pareski, you is Canadian, you don't even speak english.

Ja sam gotovo sasvim siguran da je hteo da kaze da je 95% glasalo za Ruse (tj. za rusku opciju)

Steve Nash and Ali G
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Pareski do

Quote from: Ivan_D on April 02, 2014, 05:53:36 AM
Pareski, you is Canadian, you don't even speak english.

Између америчких новоговора + дијалеката и ових уличарско-сеоских жаргона Британије који ће још мало па постати доминантни на БиБиСију, Канада (п)остаје острво енглеског књижевног језика.

QuoteJa sam gotovo sasvim siguran da je hteo da kaze da je 95% glasalo za Ruse (tj. za rusku opciju)

Коме подваљујеш те текстове леба ти?

Ivan_D

 :mrgreen:

QuoteE sad ko je neozenjen i pametan da dovodi Ukrajinske snajke ovde
[Komentar poslat iz B92 Android™ aplikacije (Android Robot by Google, CC BY 3.0)]  (Movado, 4. april 2014 20:54)
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Daisy

NEDELJA 6.04.2014 | 16:09

Zauzeta zgrada vlasti Donjecka

IZVOR: BETA, AFP

Donjeck -- Proruski demonstranti upali su danas u prostorije lokalne uprave u gradu Donjecku, na istoku Ukrajine.

Više od 2.000 demonstranata uputilo se na kraju protesta ka prostorijama koje je čuvala policija. Od toga je 50 uspelo da se probije u zgradu, javila je agencija Frans pres.

Demonstranti su sa zgrade lokalne vlasti skinuli zastavu Ukrajine, a istakli zastavu Rusije.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2014&mm=04&dd=06&nav_category=78&nav_id=833341
Više volim da mi se neko izveštačeno osmehne, nego da se spontano izdere na mene.

Pijanista

Nezavisni Donjeck je faktor stabilnosti u regionu.

Ivan_D

QuoteO moćna li si Rusijo!
I slepi će u Srbiji sada da progledaju i da shvate da nema nama hleba i budućnosti nego sa tobom a nikada sa dušmanima iz EU!
(Iguman Nemanja, 7. april 2014 18:29)

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Svrbi...  xfoht
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Pareski do

Meне више изненађују ови Американци који су лоцирали Украјину на тлу САД, Канаде и Гренланда, где ли је по њима Русија у том случају?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/


Pijanista

Sad pitajte Srbe (Ruse...) da lociraju Kazahstan ili da nabroje one dve balticke zemlje sto im ime pocinje na "L"

baggio

Bitna razlika je u tome sto isti ti Srbi (Rusi) sasvim sigurno nisu do te mere kategoricni kako bi u istim
tim zemljama (koje na mapi ne mogu da "ubodu") miletarno intervenisali.

A s'druge strane, ova cinjenica o generalnom ne poznavanju stvari od strane Amera i nije zapanjujuca. xrotaeye
Ono sto je kriticno je njihova zaludjenost o njihovoj svetskoj superiornosti.
We can not change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand - Randy Pauch

Pareski do

Quote from: Pijanista on April 08, 2014, 03:32:40 PM
Sad pitajte Srbe (Ruse...) da lociraju Kazahstan ili da nabroje one dve balticke zemlje sto im ime pocinje na "L"

Хоћемо, када српски политичари буду претили некоме санкцијама или интервенцијама због Летоније, Литваније и Казахстана

Pijanista

Onda pitaj te koji prete, tj politicare a ne debeloguze kokakolicare iz vajominga.

QuoteA s'druge strane, ova cinjenica o generalnom ne poznavanju stvari od strane Amera i nije zapanjujuca. pomućenje svesti
Ono sto je kriticno je njihova zaludjenost o njihovoj svetskoj superiornosti.

Tacno tako.

Why America is NOT the greatest country in the world, anymore.

Ivan_D

Ma ljudi, jedna je stvar kritikovati Ameriku i Zapad kroz prizmu toga sta bi sve moglo tamo da se promeni, pa da mozda bude (jos) bolje nego sto jeste, a druga je porediti ih sa Rusijom.
Amerika i Zapad nisu idealni, niti to iko tvrdi. Ali sasvim je neprimereno porediti Zapad sa primitivnim drustvima kakva su na zalost srpsko, a pogotovo rusko. Nema tu poredjenju mesta. To su dva razlicita sveta. Ne postoji tu zajednicki denominator.
I samo zahvaljujuci lepom vaspitanju zapadnjaka i njihove sposobnosti da se izdignu nad stvari, do they not rub it in to Russians/Serbs etc. I cesto cak nadju i lepu rec za njih.

Sta reci o zemlji/drzavi, cija skijasica na pretproslim olimpijskim igrama osvoji zlatnu medalju, pa joj onda organizatori istu oduzmu jer nije prosla doping test, onda stigne u Rusiju, a ruska drzava joj svejedno da $50K kao nagradu i jos joj izliju platinastu medalju.

Ili, Pareski je ovde davno postirao, pre nekoliko godina Jelena Jankovic pobedi u cetvr finalu nekog turnira i onda srbijanski novinari prekidali press konferenciju aplauzima par puta, iako se to u civilizovanom svetu radi samo u izuzetnim prilikama posle pobedjenog finalnog meca. I to ne uvek, vec samo ako je mec bio izvanredan.
Mi smo kao oni crnci u Americi koji su se toliko nedavno radovali kad im je cerka zavrsila srednju skolu da su morali da ih izbace sa ceremonije.

I kako sad da poredis visevekovnu kulturu sa necim takvim? Jednostavno ne ide to.

Ne tvrdim da je sva sreca u tehnolosko/kulturno/civilizacijskom napredku - to je naravno vrlo diskutabilno, ali makar malo realnosti.


If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

baggio

We can not change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand - Randy Pauch

Pijanista

Najgore sto sam video u Srpskom parlamentu je cupanje kablova i polivanje vodom.

Ovo je Ukrajina:

http://www.serbiancafe.com/lat/vesti/14/125995/tuca-u-ukrajinskom-parlamentu-video.html


Pareski do

Quote from: Pijanista on April 08, 2014, 07:01:02 PM
Onda pitaj te koji prete, tj politicare a ne debeloguze kokakolicare iz vajominga.

Please save your tantrum for the folks at the Washington Post, I did not imagine or conduct this experiment  8-)

Ivan_D

If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.


Ivan_D

Ruske aktivnosti podsecaju na one srpske pre cetvrt veka po susednim republikama.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

Hate mail

Mislis po susednim izmisljenim socijalistickim tzv. republikama?

They have rights, too.

Predating the "CIA Factbook" reality by millenia.
"You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!"

Ivan_D

Ne znam koje su to izmisljene republike, ali znam koji narod je po obicaju ispao glup, dobio po picci, sad zivi od doznaka iz inostranstva i skoro se nista nije opametio.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.

tempo

ma gdje opametio.. gluplji je nego ikad prije. konkretno bosanci.
kad sam cuo da triglav nije u crnu goru, tri dana sam plako


Ivan_D

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2014&mm=04&dd=13&nav_category=78&nav_id=836139

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Svaka cast Putinu i Rusima na odbrani Evrope od zla zvanog USA.
Ali da su Srbi na mjestu Rusa, Americki brodovi u Crnom moru vec bi bili potopljeni, kod nas nema igranja ratova ili ratuj ili budi miran.
Amere treba potprasiti, a ne ove jadne Ukraince.
Nadam se da Putin nece intrvrnisati u Ukrajini, i da nece doci do rata u Evropi.
Putin je veliki strateg, zelim mu puno srece u odlukama.
(planina, 13. april 2014 15:15)

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Taman sam poslednjih nekoliko godina iskulirao Srbe i stekao utisak da su se makar malcice opametili i prosvetili.

Situacija u Ukrajini i stav ogromnog broja Srba po tom pitanju me je ubedila da sam se, na zalost, zavaravao.
Koliko neverovatno ima ubogog sveta tamo je jednostavno zastrasujuce.

Mizernih li ljudi.
If you dine with the devil bring a long spoon.